While the Enviro-nuts don’t get it, the wind companies know how bad Big Stone II’s loss hurts them

these environmental morons have no idea how much damage they have done to South Dakota with their attacks on these new plants. and they have totally set back wind power. DUMB

This is an incredible setback to SD and our environment.

Obama and the Dems should be ashamed.

Perhaps Herseth can grab some more of that stimulous money and we can build the infrustucture we need?

I’m still looking for the line in the article that says the wind power folks are quitting. Unlike you defeatists, the text presented in the original article (which does not appear to be available online, so I’m going with the quotes presented) says the develoeprs are looking for solutions.

And the solutions that will come from libs is to have the government pay for it 10:55.

CA: Looking is all they will do. The mental-midgit tree huggers combined with the state of the economy all but did in this project. People and companies with valid capital structure concerns which cost a lot less money are having serious problems obtaining financing. Good luck getting 1-2 Bil without governmental help.

There is absolutely no rhyme or reason what Oblabla does on any given day. “Change we can believe in”. BS. He wants to get the economy going, proposal: More taxes, higher tax rates, capitalistic restrictions without rational. He wants an open government, proposal: aligned himself with crooks, extremeists and whackjobs and overtly pander to anyone who assisted him. He wants an efficient government, reality: Oblabla still has tens of high positions still vacant. He wants to help nonprofits and encourage donations and helping man-kind, proposal: cap gift deduction rates at 28%. He wants us to go green, proposal: directly or indirectly whack the crap out of alternative energy R & D and projects. He wants to keep our country safe, proposal: have a criminal (not military trial which creates a whole buttload of evidentiary issues which will compromise our security) on the 9/11 dirtbags 3 blocks from where they committed their crimes! Oh, Oblabla can’t get his head out of his ass long enough to determine whether we need more troups in Afgan. He wants to help the infirm and elderly, proposal: whack $500 million from Medicare.

I can’t even type as I am so livid at this moron of a Prez and the miscreants to elected him.

Duh how do you really feel? CA is dreaming when he doesn’t agree wind power just took a huge hit.

Still very pissed. Does anyone have a brain anymore? Vision? Sense of uncontrollable outrage? We’re getting screwed like a spring goose and no one (other than my “You Lie” idol) freaks out. Where are all the “I’m mad as Hell and I’m not going to take it anymore” people?

Cory –

I’m not saying they won’t be built. But with BSII, the transmission lines were ready. Without it, they’re on their own and 5-10 years farther down the line.

So what would you rather have – wind energy production and sales now, or in 10 years?

The problem is not with the demise of BSII. The problem is with the whole resource colony philosophy of SD Republican leadership. You are looking to Minnesota to construct your wind infrastructure for you. Do you ever think about doing something for yourself? You might want to look at how Minnesota and Wisconsin are approaching this. Neither is counting on SD to build their wind and transmission infrastructure.

Don, you’re right to a point on Minn and WI, but, you leave out the fact that both are home to major power companies that their respective states can force to undertake progressive technologies. We don’t have the kind of leverage in S.D., which is why we were so counting on the MN PUC to take a regional approach to BSII. Instead, they chose to pander to the environmental lobby in MN, thus saving their political chips for the upcoming licensure fights over the MN nuke plants.

Excel’s rate base in S.D. is something they can simply walk away from if they don’t like their returns here (exemplified by the ongoing outages in Sioux Falls caused by their glacially slow recognition of increasing load demands). We need a big carrot like BSII to offer them as we will never be able to coerce investment here, the way other states do.

Donald,
Minus the stupid comments about Republican leadership, you have stumbled across the real reason why the MN power companies pulled out of BSII. MN threatened them because of their obsession against coal. What in the world does MN have to gain by giving SD the opportunity to capitalize on energy production from both coal and wind for MN? They want their power companies to build more wind turbines right there in MN and not be investing in coal plants in SD.

Let’s just hope over time they come to understand the challenges are more complex than they wish.

“Being ignorant is not so much a shame, as being unwilling to learn.” Ben Franklin

How sanctimonious of you to blissfully ignore the Green Power Express; http://www.itctransco.com/projects/thegreenpowerexpress/thegreenpowerexpress-map.html

See, Michigan, Wisconsin and Minnesota will bailout South Dakota – through the market and do for South Dakota what South Dakota refuses to do for itself.

Jon, how blissfully ingorant are you anyway? South Minneapolis has more taxpayers than SD. Those three states are not what coined the term his cost utilities. SD::: 1 consumer per 3 square miles in the west. Go for it Jon, drag out the pig and break that sucker, we need your money now!!!!!

(hi cost)

Sarah-Cuda!

insanity. i agree. these whacko’s want a clean environment but don’t want corn ethanol, wind turbines, transmission lines or solar panels.

they should just call it what it is…they seem to be striving for population control as an environmental solution.

stupid is what stupid does
I could have had transmission lines on a fast track thru BS2 and help bridge the energy gap to the futue instead I chhose to have a small population state with limited resources try to find financing in a down economy. Do and Jon dont get capitalism because they want to end it. They dont get it and never will. Stupid is what stupid does.

I meant donald Duck not Du

The nut jobs smoked too many herbs to be able to understand simple facts! You have to be able to transmit the power to the people who need it. Damn that is a tough concept.