And what did Herseth have to say on this?
I wonder what comments Stephanie Herseth Sandlin had to remark since she’s one of the Obama supporters appearing at the Montana Democratic Dinner where her choice for president appeared.
The Obama campaign is currently under fire at the moment for the non-repudiated Ed Schultz comments of the day before, where Liberal Radio talk show host Ed Schultz called him a warmonger:
Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) declined twice Saturday to personally repudiate a liberal radio host’s declaration that Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) is a “warmonger.”
At a morning stump speech in Missoula and an evening Montana Democratic Party dinner in Butte, Obama made no mention of Ed Schultz’s comment, which came Friday night at a fundraiser for the North Dakota Democratic Party, which Obama later attended.
Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki said, “John McCain is not a warmonger and should not be described as such. He’s a supporter of a war that Senator Obama believes should have never been authorized and never been waged.” But that was not enough for the Republican National Committee or the McCain campaign, which compared the situation to McCain’s repudiation of comments by conservative radio host Bill Cunningham, who repeatedly mocked Obama’s middle name Hussein while warming up the crowd at a McCain appearance.
So, will she denounce the warmonger comment associated with her candidate’s campaign, or embrace it?
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So how many degrees of separation before John McCain should denounce himself for not denouncing Ed Schultz for calling him a war monger?
As much as I want to see Herseth Sandlin (and her Dem Senate counterpart) out of office, this is a bit of a stretch, SDWC. I’m hoping that the fact that she and Johnson endorsed one of the most liberal members of the Senate (not to mention that Obama showed little tendency toward the bipartisanship and “reaching out” that Herseth likes to tout) will be enough to sink them in SD.
What’s to repudiate? The word “monger?”
McCain’s whole brand is based on war.
“Bomb, bomb, Iran…” etc.
Would the RNC prefer the word “warhawk?”
Or should Schultz leave the “monger” part in
and just substitue “fear” for “war.”
Or maybe just call him McBush.
Obama: MushMonger. If he is so principled, then why the statement: “John McCain is not a warmonger”? Sounds like he was bowing to pressure, just like any other politician.
Aside from this blog and maybe a few others, this story won’t appear in any South Dakot MSM. Herseth-Sandlin won’t comment and no one will ask her about it.
I’m pretty much on the same page as Anon 10:33, as more folks learn more about Obama the more heat they may put on his endorsers and supporters.
Obama is a muslim. Don’t you know what his middel name is, afterall? Hussein!
This is a christian nashiun. We don’t need no muslim presnit.
Also, we don’t need no muslim lovers like Herseth representing us in DC.
You can stop your whining:
Obama camp disavows ‘warmonger’
06/04/08 10:46 from Top Stories
Obama spokeswoman Jen Psaki, distances camp from talk show host Ed Schultz’s comments.
Epp
SD Watch http://www.southdakotawatch.net
Has Obama decided to put his hand on his heart when the United States Pledge is being said yet or how about if the National Anthem is being sung?
I would like to know while at his church service and his minister was preaching and making body jestures as seen in the media if he thinks it is correct or apporiate if his child or others children are viewing this type of behavior from a minister of God?
How do you suppose Herseth feels about these facts????
Poster 4:04p
I was not stating that Epps spoke for Obama. I was making a comment about his post from 12:34p
This is the part where the wingnuts all run around, bumping into each other, soiling their shorts, taking pratfalls, and otherwise doing the stooge routine, trying to convince each other (and to a lesser extent the rest of us) that they have the slightest clue what in heaven’s name they’re talking about.
Nyuk, nyuk, nyuk.
That describes you, Fleming, if you substitute “loonies” for “wingnuts”. Probably just your way of avoiding the challenge posed by anonymous 2:06.
You can’t answer the question honestly, so you dance around it. The Obama bunch said McCain is not a warmonger. Why do you think they did that, if McCain is indeed a warmonger?
He’s not just a warmonger, he’s a dumb one. And one running for office has to be careful ho w they say so, but I don’t.
Look at what’s happening in Iraq right now. Clearly neither Petraeus, nor Bush, nor Malakai could see the sucker punch coming, even though their adversaries have been telegraphing it for months.
Anyone who wants to stay in the ring at that level of ignorance and belligerence isn’t getting my vote, and they probably shouldn’t get yours either.
Barack will say this in more generous, face saving terms and with far greater subtlty.
But betweeen the lines, that’s what I’m hearing him say.
Can you hear it?
Listen carefully.
That’s the problem, you have to listen carefully. It was disingenuous. I would have had a lot more respect for Obama if he had just stuck with the second part of the statement: “Senator Obama believes should have never been authorized and never been waged.”
As for your comment, “and they probably shouldn’t get yours either,” I’ll decide what my priorities are when I vote, thank you.
Wow, a politician who parses his words to save face. So much for Obama’s “real change” mantra. It’s the same old, same old.
6:48. No Barack parsed his words so McCain could save face. That’s what you do when you conquer an aversary that you would like to convert into an ally.
Wow, Obama allowing McCain to save face (not that he needs it) when nobody’s been conquered. Yet. Pretty creative spinning, BF.
Ick. (Putting fingers down throat, as if gagging.)
No need to “allow” me your brand of courtesy (read that: condescension) or the “my good friend” phoniness. Drives me nuts when McCain invokes it — it’s like fingernails on a chalkboard.
I don’t like you, BF, and I won’t pretend I do. So you can quit with the fake friendliness. This is one person you won’t conquer, and who will never be your ally.
OMG. BF Anonymous inadvertently paid me a compliment. I haven’t been skinny in 25 years!!!
Unlike BF and his pals, who apparently don’t have to, I gotta do some real work.
See ya later.
Such silliness from most, especially those without the courage to sign their name. Don’t you recognize when Bill Fleming is baiting you and about to snap the trap? And ya gotta admit, he’s pretty damned good at it.
Most everyone I know agrees that whichever of the three running for Pres will be a significant improvement over the present office holder.
For those of you that missed it in the article, the difference between the Schultz comments and the Cunningham comments is who was paying the bill? Cunningham made his comments while warming up the crowd for McCain, at a pure McCain election event. McCain was paying the bills for that event, thus it was his problem. Schultz, made his comments at a fund raiser for the North Dakota Democrat Party, not an Obama event. Obama was not paying the bills, the NDDP was. If someone owes McCain an apology, it is the NDDP not Obama.
F of 3, you make an excellent point; however, it won’t matter to PP. He likes just likes to spin to try and stir up a hornet’s nest.
Tony, et al, I’ll have the courage to sign my name when the person who signs my paychecks is ME. Actually, it won’t be long before I can emerge from cowardice…will be leaving an environment full of libs and starting my own enterprise. So perhaps you will be stuck with a real person with a real name in the future. In the meantime…about this thread…I think that SDakotans will think twice about Herseth and Johnson for backing Obama (as stated in Anon 10:33).
11:33 Anon. Best of luck with your new enterprise and with finding your courage, my good friend.
Questions for you, “What makes the elephant charge his tusk… in the misty mist, or the dusky dusk?
What makes the muskrat guard his musk?”
Rrrrufff…errrrruff, ruff!?
(I know you know the answer, Dorothy.)
PP,
The slow but steady decline of War College continues.
You went from a credible, but committed Republican with stimulating posters on both sides to a lower case version of rush limbaugh or worse, ann coulter.
I’d hate to walk around carrying that title.
Get Real, I agree. Both SDWC and Blogmore
are in the dunk tank right now.
Too much vested interest and no genuine curiosity or creativity.
Both sites have jumped the shark, stereotyping themselves and leaving people who want a real forum with some kind of strange partisan monkey on their back instead.
Yuk.
Not a very good feeling.
My guess is that Bill thinks Blogmore is in the tank because he no longer has a pipeline to the blog in the form of someone else named Bill. The choice of many topics, and their tone, were likely driven by Bill F. and his Breakfast Club friends. Just a guess. Now that there is a “righty” on board, it is suddenly in the tank. So much for a “real forum.”
By the way, I agree with one of the first posts that it is a stretch to bring Herseth Sandlin into this. Much to the dismay of quite a few Dems/liberals in SD, she has shown a degree of support for Iraq through her votes, and someone I doubt if she would be on board with the characterization of McCain. But what do I know?
2:53 No, bad guess.
There’s nothing I enjoy more than debating a righty who knows how to write and think. In fact it’s the reason I started posting on Mt. Blogmore in the first place.
And to the degree that there are conservatives here who are capable of carrying on an interesting, stimulating and entertaining conversation, (Anton for example, and Lee, and Troy) that’s why I post here as well.
All I’m saying is that sadly, the overall intelligence level, sense of humor, creativity, and sense of worthy discourse on both blogs seems to be declining. And when that happens, you end up with Gronk talking to Grog with clubs. And scratching their Neanderthal, troglodite butts.
Now I can do that for awhile, but after that, then what, you know….?
And I think there might be quite a few on both sides who feel the same way.
As with Democracy, it’s not the posters, but rather the people who comment who make the Blog work. Or not.
Bill:
You win best comment of the year:
“And when that happens, you end up with Gronk talking to Grog with clubs. And scratching their Neanderthal, troglodite butts.”
LMAO!
However, I take issue with any decline of SDWC. I think Pat is at the top of his game. He has little control over the commenters here. As to Mt. Blogmore, yes, it is in decline. Its life forces have been removed. (Sorry, KWo, you’re trying hard but it needs Harlan and Ross back.) But there are plenty of other options for decent local blogs, no matter what your political view.
I’m just sayin’.
Epp SD Watch http://www.southdakotawatch.net
P.S. Why do I get blamed for what what Obama says or doesn’t say?
I agree with you Todd, sort of. Right now, SDWC is a more lively and interesting place than Blogmore. That’s why, these days, I’m here more than there.
Even so, there are still a lot of Gronks and Grogs hanging around here.
So keep a hickory stick and a six pack of whup ass handy.
7:20 am: ‘“Discussion” I like to stir up “discussion.”’ You keep telling yourself that and maybe someday you’ll believe it.
For Todd. A little whup-ass sampler:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=22eubaCUNJU
Excerpt:
“Well, I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
Well, I stand up next to a mountain
And I chop it down with the edge of my hand
Well, I pick up all the pieces and make an island
Might even raise a little sand.”
— Jimi Hendrix
Or take the third option which is to just not comment on it. She is, at least, 2 degrees removed from the comments and I doubt that anyone (aside from PP and a few others on this blog) would care what she had to say on it.