DWU Poll - Obama smokes Clinton in South Dakota.
There’s a blurb in today’s Argus that Dave Kranz is going to be talking tomorrow about a poll on the Democratic Presidential Primary.
My question? Why would you want to wait that long, when you can read about it here? The good word that I’m getting through my spies? Obama over Clinton.
Now this poll, by Dakota Wesleyan University, was taken before Obama started taking pokes at small towns. But, with a reported margin of error of +/- 6%, I’m told it will report that it comes out Obama at 47% and Hillary Clinton at 33%. - a 14% margin.
What do you think?
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I’m one of the Democrats supporting Hillary. I’m not a big supporter and see the Clintons’ flaws, but I think Obama is a big mistake. I remember liberals like Obama from my time getting an MA in California. They are smug, snooty, and looked down their nose and people like me from Dakota. Clinton is political animal and not always truthful, but I don’t feel that she hates my existence, like some of the liberals like Obama I knew. Obama will be a weak candidate for us Dems, but you can’t even say that without being shouted down at party meetings. It’s scary. Maybe South Dakotans will wake up.
A political tempest over Barack Obama’s comments about bitter voters in small towns has given rival Hillary Rodham Clinton a new opening to court working class Democrats 10 days before Pennsylvanians hold a primary that she must win to keep her presidential campaign alive. …
Clinton attacked Obama’s remarks much more harshly Saturday than she had the night before, calling them “demeaning.” Her aides feel Obama has given them a big opening, pulling the spotlight away from troublesome stories such as former President Clinton’s recent revisiting of his wife’s misstatements about an airport landing in Bosnia 10 years ago.
Obama is trying to focus attention narrowly on his remarks, arguing there’s no question that some working-class families are anxious and bitter. The Clinton campaign is parsing every word, focusing on what Obama said about religion, guns, immigration and trade.
Clinton hit all those themes in lengthy comments to manufacturing workers in Indianapolis.
“The people of faith I know don’t ‘cling’ to religion because they’re bitter. People embrace faith not because they are materially poor, but because they are spiritually rich,” she said.
“I also disagree with Senator Obama’s assertion that people in this country ‘cling to guns’ and have certain attitudes about immigration or trade simply out of frustration,” Clinton added.
“People don’t need a president who looks down on them,” she said. “They need a president who stands up for them.”
Obama can go back to Harvard, New York City, Hyde Park, and his madrassa in Indonesia…we small town Dakotans don’t need his condescension!
I’m with you Anne!
Gee, Obama must be all wet from the looks of these replys so far. Not one bit of bitterness in them that I can see.
Congrats PP on a good scoop…of course, beating the Argus is like beating Patrick Duel in a triathalon. Blogs like War College are leaving papers like the Argus in the dust.
Obama is a sleazeball huckster, people, wake up! He’s been hustling his way up the greasy pole of identity politics for years. And the idiot liberals in the Democratic Party couldn’t help but slobber all over themselves to support him because they want a cool black friend so they can feel good about themselves. He’s a joke.
I don’t know about all this, but I agree that the people who support Obama are very aggressive and try to stifle any debate about Obama. If you don’t think Obama is The Chosen One you are too often attacked and marginalized and I don’t appreciate it.
I’m looking forward to Obama coming to South Dakota to tell us small town people what morons we are for having guns and going to church!
I’d vote for Hillary in the SD primary too, but Obama has all the money and big power-brokers in the state in his pocket. This contest will not be fair and the Daschle/Obama people will attack everyone who doesn’t kiss their b—s. How’s that for democracy people?
I was thinking that Senator Johnson and Congresswoman Herseth Sandlin might be hurt in the general election by their endorsement of one of the most liberal members of the Senate. But if this poll is correct, and if it holds, maybe that won’t be the case. What do you folks who know more about the political inclinations of SD than I do think about that?
gohil, thanks for sharing clinton’s comments. you’re right. she hit the nail on the head.
i don’t say this often, but good for her.
Watch what will happen: the liberal media will do everything in its power to downplay this whole thing so that Obama won’t be hurt (especially in South Dakota, where the Argus won’t even mention it) and the Obama goons will go into high-gear attacking and smearing anyone who talks about this issue as a racist. Just wait and watch.
Why would Obama try to “clarify” something that he really believeS? A number of commentators (and not just conservative ones) are calling this a “gaffe,” but if he meant it, the only mistake here is that it might hurt him in the general election with the Average Joe. You also have to consider his audience at the time…very wealthy, elite, look-down-your nose San Franciscans. It was a great comnent to make in that venue, but outside of that comfortable cocoon, I gotta wonder.
Obama just got caught saying what liberals really believe! It wasn’t a gaffe. It was his true self showing. The mask slipped and we got a look at his ugly America-hating left-wing self. This guy is a big fan of his minister who calls our country the US of KKKA and said we “deserved” 9/11 and that the evil Republicans invented AIDS to kill black people. This is the world that Obama is from. It’s a dark, frightening, radical, insane world and we can’t elect him anything despite what the liberal string-pullers in the media want us to do.
Obama said that because of economic problems people in small towns become interested in guns, religion, and attacking dark people. This is how Obama views the world. Not that people like to hunt. Not that they actually believe in God [unlike himself, who just went to Jeremiah “I hate America” Wright’s church to get “street cred.” Not that people actually are concerned about illegal immigration or urban crime for legitimate reasons. Obama has a twisted left-wing view of the world. South Dakotans need to stop him
The left never really gets America. They don’t understand that cultural conservatism isn’t a recent backlash, but it’s the default state of American political life. Barack Obama, while a very educated and erudite candidate, should probably read some Tocqueville before spouting off again. The values of those Pennsylvania voters isn’t an aberration from the “real” American electorate, it is the real American electorate. Those Pennsylvania voters are the descendants of the largely Scots-Irish frontiersmen and women who settled this nation in the first place. They, for lack of a better term, are America 1.0—the people who made this country what it is.
Obama is from another culture entirely. The reason why he fails to understand the voters of the American Midwest is he has absolutely nothing in common with them. He doesn’t share their culture, their philosophy, their worldview, and he certainly does not share their view of government.
http://jayreding.com/archives/2008/04/13/barack-obama-versus-alexis-de-tocqueville/
I’d like to see Stephanie Herseth-Sandlin actually take a real stand and leave the Obama campaign behind because Obama insulted South Dakotans. That’d show some real cajones on her part.
But, then Herseth-Sandlin is from the same elite, Georgetown, lobbyist, hyphenating culture as Obama so she agrees with him.
good point Stanley….Herseth is selling us out by supporting this America-hating nut…he won’t even wear a flag pin in his label…i mean, who refuses to do THAT???? this Obama is T-R-O-U-B-L-E
I’d like Herseth-Sandlin take a real stand on the Bush Admin, I’d love it if she’d start there and focus on what is the mess they’ve got us in first before getting all hot under the collar and indignant over a speech.
Please remember the doozies of speeches the current Commander in Chief has muttered — I’d much prefer an educated leader vs a C- doofus that can’t tell his right from his left.
Sorry, but give me a leader that lead, not tell us to go shopping while he works on the war. (A war waged on misinformation, dare I say one we’ve been lied into.) Give me a leader that acknowledges global warming. Give me someone that doesn’t feel he or his administration isn’t above the law or the Constitution. Give me an administration that doesn’t lose “selective” e-mails. The list is too long with the damage done these past 8 years — but a statement about guns and God fails to rile me as much as the injustice and damage Pres. Bush and his entourage have caused.
To the point of this thread, I wonder how many who have weighed in here are Democrats who are planning to vote in the SD Primary.
Good point 6:42 — probably next to none. But they are voting in the general election, and I am wondering about the effect on our Dem federal officeholders. I am one Republican who has voted for Herseth every time she ran. But not this time.
Herseth-Sandlin needs to stand up and take a stand against Obama….if not, I’ll never support her again either
The problem with believing that this will hurt Obama in the DEMOCRATIC primary is the fact that liberals actually BELIEVE what he said so they like to hear him say it
This just drives me nuts as a Democrat. Why can’t we nominate someone NORMAL who doesn’t say crazy stuff. All we need is a normal candidate who won’t be seeking Republican policies and then we need to win. We always nominate these idiots!
Well said 9:52 ! That’s because most Democrats are idiots! There really isn’t much to choose from for the Dems, and nothing else to choose for the GOP! Time to go Third Party!
Well said 9:52 ! That’s because most Democrats are idiots! There really isn’t much to choose from for the Dems, and nothing else to choose for the GOP! Time to go Third Party!
Obama’s attacks on small town America aren’t going to fly in South Dakota. Obama saying that small town people are deluded idiots who carry guns and go to church is smug and elitist. It will hurt him.
But of course the liberal media will cover it up to protect him.