District 15 Democratic Candidate: “Nowhere” South Dakota

Maybe she should have said “in the middle of backwards South Dakota” as that is what many of our policies look like to some outside (and inside for that matter) our fine state.

And by the way PP when you give another blog a hat tip for finding a story, it is good etiquette to provide a link back to their article.

As Todd would say, “just sayin”

And now do you know it’s Martha? I don’t know her at all…but remember your little issue with the Rapid City yabbo a few months back?
Real easy to pretend to be someone you are not.

Martha if you don’t like SD move. I suggest California or NY!

Bye

I still think Martha is the best candidate, she shares my values, but two things struck me odd. 1) The poor single parent statement. I live on the edge of District 15 and have many friends who are registered voters in that district and NONE of them fit that description, on the contrary, they are all single professionals like myself. 2) Why practice Catholicism if you don’t beleive in the doctrine? Kind of hypocritical? Why not just become a protestant?

who says PP didn’t post it to take this chick down?

I think the point of the “middle of nowhere” comment was that people who live in remote areas are the most hurt by pharmacists refusals (as opposed to those who live in Sioux Fall, Rapid, etc. who have many pharmacists to choose from). But it’s so much easier to just pull stuff out of context, isn’t it PP? A candidate with pages and pages of off-handed statements available on the internet might really be in trouble if an opponent decided to do that…

Anon, maybe because I barely have time for my campaign, much less to try to sabotage another one that has nothing to do with me.

But you have to admit, PP, your comment was pretty negative and snarky (as in not exactly a detached, objective overview).

it sure seems like you are just skewing the statement (real or not) to your own advantage. you are intentionally missing the point of what she is trying to say to make her sound like someone who doesn’t love south dakota. i think that’s a bunch of bull, pp. that’s pretty low, considering there are a lot of people in this state that share her sentiments, but love it here just as much as any wealthy republican that can afford to portray the image that everything is honky-dory…

that’s stupid, pp. i think you posting this does more to show your ignorance than hers.

Hey now, it is a sad day when someone who wants to represent the people of South Dakota and they feel the need to call on the Hollywood’s to uplift them. Maybe someone needs to find out if it was her in fact that wrote Ellen!

I do not believe that PP said it was her for sure. I suggest re-reading what was said!

1. to imply that making the observation that some people in SD might actually “live in the nowhere” is wrong is biased, hypocritical and ignorant

2. it doesn’t matter if she wrote it or not, pp wrote this post as if she did. if he was worried that she didn’t, then he shouldn’t have posted it.

3. so she’s an ellen fan? who cares? how many republican candidates have written to o’reilly or called rush?

sorry if this is a repeat - my post seemed to have not gone through.

btw anon @ 10:27, are you saying that we should turn our backs to the positive economic impacts of movies like “dances with wolves” or “national treasure”? there are many people that would disagree with you about not needing/wanting hollywood to be a factor in uplifting our economy in SD.

it’s a big world, man. you don’t make connections, you die.

Pat, you should post my ENTIRE post. Not just the parts that are convenient for you. I mention that I’m not sure who posted this, but if someone is out there pretending to be Martha on the internets, she needs to look into it.

my concern for PP with posts like this are the “unintended consequences.” He should re-read the SD Secretary of State’s advice.

If he’s a candidate, and is either promoting or competing against any other candidates race, he needs to charge them and/or they need to acknowledge the contribution.

I think PP just thinks this applies to his own race, but as I read it, it applies to all the candidates. At a minimum, I think he should double check this.

In past posts, PP claims that he is just reporting the news. But as with this post, it is clear that he’s editorializing. I don’t have a problem with that, I’m just hoping he doesn’t get in trouble over it.

Lay off PP, he’s just reporting a whack job whining about her self-made situation. If PP appears negative, so what. It’s a Rep website ding dongs.

Betty 76, 10:22. “wealthy republicans” are to blame?? Have you seen your new leader Scott Heidepriem’s house?? Huge and probably worth $2-2.5 million. How about his house in the hills and at Okoboji? Don’t give me this wealth argument. In this state there are many wealthy demo politicians.

Not only is Martha a whiner, she’s also dillusional. Like Ellen is going to take time away from getting ready for another of her lesbian weddings, take time away from promoting a morally bankrupt lifestyle to help little ‘ol Marth overturn the Catholic church and defeat two Catholic politicians. PP is right, move. Her view may mirror some of your postings, but it is not the majority, even remotely, of the views of SD. If that makes us backwards, then I LOVE backwards.

Wealthy Republicans…haven’t you heard that the nouveau riche are Obama supporters?

I just find it rather laughable that she would say she was in the “middle of nowhere” when she’s running in the most populated areas in South Dakota. Not to mention she shouldn’t complain about the right-to-lifers using her pro-choice views against her. She lives in a dominantly catholic district, where even the dems are pro-life. She should have expected as much.

Keep reaching, PP. The language used by the author of the post was no different from that used by lots of other red-blooded South Dakotans leadfooting it along our long and often lonely highways.

Her point stands: If you’re a woman in a one-pharmacy town, and your pharmcists decides to go all Jim Dobson on you, you have a long , expensive drive ahead.

Duh, it’s a Republican website owned and edited by a person running for office. There are rules about that. PP knows this. So should you.

How can she be a Catholic, anyway?

12:06 She’s a Catholic because she says she is.

Yeah and I’m a wonderful, generous, kind, and all around great person. Because I say so. Does that make it so?

12:23 Only if you mean it and do it.

EXACTLY. How do we know Martha means it and does it? I’m just askin’.

“Nowhere, SD” is a little known plat in the Pettigrew Heights area of District 15. Most of the city maps fail to list it. You have to go back to some early, early Sioux Falls city maps where you will see it listed. It was once the high class part of town but then all those rich people wanting divorces there and city fathers were worried about the bad p.r. it was giving the city.*

I think there are far more important issues to worry about in District 15.

Epp
SD Watch http://www.southdakotawatch.net

*Wink

Bill, 12:05 - What rule(s) would PP be violating here?? Martha isn’t even in his district nor is she directly opposing PP. I don’t think PP needs to take a vow of political celebacy just becuase he’s running. Am I wrong?

Duh, some time ago, PP printed the AG’s rules. He has to report anytime his blog advocates for him or for any other candidate, as well as whrn he advocates against any other candidate. Either that, or the other candidate needs to declare it. I mean, it’s not exactly objective reporting. I’m just sayin’

(BTW, all of this would be moot if PP weren’t running for office.”
And again, that’s just my read, and wtf do I know?).

Duh, generally speaking, Pepe can spin things how he wants, but that doesn’t mean his readers have to like it or not call him on it. DWC would be pretty lame if it were only a bunch GOP sheep baahing in assent. He’s taken something of questionable authorship squarely out of context bc he wants to link this woman to DeGenerous and rally the homophobes.

p.s. How much should one pay a good butler?

All I know is that Martha Vanderlinde’s mother was a good Democratic legislator and probably instilled her with the same kind of values I like.
One of her opponents, John Madigan, has been a Democrat for a couple of months now and has told me he did it to take advantage of the skewed party registration in favor of the Democrats there. Not because he believes in any sort of Democratic party principles.

Nice try at distracting from the real issue. Middle of nowhere or Sioux Falls, women are being denied access to birth control in South Dakota. A chastity belt and burqa is about all the will be left for me unless people like Martha are elected.

Sharon,give me a break, YOU or any other woman are not being denied birth control. You have every right to go buy any form of birth control you wish, and if you can’t afford go to your County Health they will give you all you need.

So go enjoy, but quit telling falsehoods!

If you mean the state family planning program, anon, here is the list of offices: http://doh.sd.gov/LocalOffices/FamilyPlanning.aspx

If you don’t live in one of these communities (or, say, if you work 8-5), you wouldn’t be any more able to access birth control than someone who lives in a community with one pharmacist that won’t dispense. You probably aren’t aware, but some of us don’t have cars. Some of us can’t afford gas to get to another town. Some of us have to work during the day. Sounds like your world is pretty sweet, but your supposed “falsehoods” are the actual lives of South Dakotans.

If anyone’s interesting in finding out what’s really going on in District 15, That Girl at Dakota Women has a good post on it: http://dakotawomen.blogspot.com/2008/05/real-issues-of-district-15.html

Martha screwed up.

Blaming the messenger to change the subject doesn’t alter the fact that Martha screwed up.

How did she screw up Lisa? She didn’t say that she as living in the middle of nowhere or that South Dakota was a “nowhere place?” She said for people that live where it can seem like the middle of nowhere. There are lots of “places in the middle of nowhere” and I like them. Anyway, -if this really was Martha- we can all use weird names on the internet can’t we- I hardly see it as a screw up.

One question I have is what kind of sick bastard reads through the Ellen comments trying to find dirt on a political candidate?

This particular comment dates back to:April 3, 2008 9:41 AM. How many posts about Ellen’s dancing did they have to read before they found this?

Duh @ 11:40 am. you are intentionally distorting what i said in my post, just as pp intentionally distorted another person’s post. i only used “wealthy republican” as a counterpoint to martha’s claim that she represents “poor (presumably democrat) women”.

did i say no democrats are wealthy? no.

do wealthy republicans tend to think they are “more american” than poor (or any) democrats? in my opinion, yes.

because any time a democrat questions republican policies like martha did, they get republicans like pp calling her out, implying that she’s not a true south dakotan or american.

pp said “it sounds like maybe she needs to leave the state”. now, pp, i know you were joking. but i just have to put it out there that when conservatives make statements like this, it makes them look like ignorant dickheads.

I really object to statments that people like Martha, or other who share their views must ‘leave south Dakota’.

Perhaps I can suggest that extreme right-wing republicans leave South Dakota and leave the state for more liberal folks like us? I hear Iran is a good place to go if you don’t like gay marriage or women’s rights.

Yeah, Patti, that “love it or leave it” line is always a cheap shot.

In fact, it’s anti-American.

Look, boyz, if you don’t like having to argue with liberals, go someplace where they don’t have any.

Ours is a liberal democracy. Our founding fathers were liberals.

So, if you’re not down with that, go start your own country.

Meanwhile, we liberals are right here where we belong, doing what our forefathers trusted future generations to do. Perfecting our Union.

God Bless America.

the national socialist party in germany had a phrase very similar in meaning to “love it or leave it”… only theirs was a little more blunt, and by “leave it” they didn’t necessarily mean “to move willingly to another country.”

hint: 2 words, 4 letters each

agreed bf and patti, but you have to admit that when people such as susan sarandon and alec baldwin threaten to “leave it,” it opens the door to those kind of reactions.

i suggest conservatives stop saying it, and liberals stop threatening it. as if i’d be so heart-broken if susan sarandon moved away, anyway.

by the way, did anybody catch how “mary” said that a pharmacist can refuse to fill a prescription because of his “conscious?”

i don’t know if that’s really mary, but i like my legislators to know the difference between “conscious” and “conscience.”

lex, the liberals really want to “leave it” will. but most of us don’t want to leave. we were born and raised here, just like you (some of us even went and got educated and, what? came back? why would you do that?). i don’t disagree with you that the liberals that do leave are hurting their own cause. too bad conservatives have done such a good job at making this state so unattractive for many intelligent, hard working young people who grew up here…

also you’re right… we SHOULD fund our schools better so that our citizens don’t mistake two words that sound alike, neither of which most americans can even spell.

Lexrex better check himself on spelling if he’s going to criticize. The name’s MARTHA, not Mary.

Man, lr, do you realize what a fascinating question that is?

I mean, wow! What IS the difference between conscious and conscience anyway?

Very heavy, mon, very, very heavy, my brother.

Betty 76…0
Seriously, you need to subscribe to the Business Journal or something close that tracks economic data. Are you really saying that SD has economic issues? From the time of Citi Bank until now its been an economic run that very few pars of the country can compete with. Then we have Sanford contributions, Pipelines, Railroads, Oil refinery, The Homestake Lab, and economic expansion in Sioux Falls that is a direct result of the highly talented labor pool suplird by the rest of the state. Im sure your going to complain about the type of jobs or the area or who knows what a pesimistic democrat can come up with. Dr Brown from USD has a book called a Tail of 2 Cities, read it. Dr Song who use to be the chief Economist for Wells Fargo Bank use to speak in Sioux Falls every 2 years and say that Sioux Falls breaks about every Economic Model because we have 2% un-employment and 4% growth, read a book abount economics and figure out what that means. I’m seeing in my business high wage earners with degrees like nuclear radiology, spinal surgeons ect moving back because of the growth.

Dems negativity is why we draw our conclusions.