Finally getting around to converting to be South Dakotan.
The Argus Leader is reporting that Congresswoman Stephanie Herseth Sandlin’s office announced that her husband is now an official South Dakotan with a driver’s license, and everything:
Rep. Stephanie Herseth Sandlin has one less house to worry about.
Max Sandlin, the former Texas congressman who married then-Stephanie Herseth in 2007, sold his home in Marshall, Texas, last year and now is a South Dakota resident complete with state driver’s license and voter registration card, said Russ Levsen, the congresswoman’s deputy chief of staff.
The sale of the house, valued between $250,000 and $500,000, was listed on her 2008 personal financial disclosure form released Friday.
You know, I have to say that I’ve never heard of a congressional office announcing that a congressperson’s spouse has converted to “South Dakota-ism.”
(Is that like a religious conversion, except you have to drive a lot farther between towns?)
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They really are playing up her running for governor to an extreme. Can’t wait we’ll get rid of her once and for all!!!
Your only hope to get rid of Herseth is if she runs against Thune.Other wise for get you have no one who can beat her.
I have to say that I’ve never heard of a congressional office announcing that a congressperson’s spouse has converted to “South Dakota-ism.
She probably felt the need to do so because some folks like to criticize her for becoming part of the DC establishment and not being a South Dakotan anymore.
Stephanie hasn’t been challenged since Deidrich. Basically she’s run unapposed and hasn’t cracked 70%.
When there is an alternative on the ballot she will suffer. I also think she is very vulnerable this time around. House or Governor. Especially Governor.
I know we can beat her. She will have a tough race no matter what she decides. Red state dems are going to have a lot of work carrying Obama’s water in 2010.
Are we better off now than we were 4 months ago? I think not!
Bring it on Herseth-Sandlin!
Getting Max signed up as a South Dakotan is a smart political move, no matter what she is planning to do. Daschle was hurt badly by the “DC Resident” quote in the Thune race, so Stephanie is smart enough to see her “Texas resident, DC lobbyist” husband as a potential problem.
Why don’t the slugs in the South Dakota media think it’s important to report on who/what Mr. Sandlin is lobbying for in Washington and who’s paying him? smells like a cover-up
This is laughable. How many times has the guy ever been to South Dakota? Other than campaign time and the wedding, has he ever been here? Doubt he’s ever been to more than Brookings, SF, and maybe one other campaign stop. He only comes here when he has to because this isn’t home. DC is.
PP, the part you didn’t highlight was the fact that she no longer shows $15 to $50k in credit card debt, but Max does. Interesting political move. Max picks up her credit card debt so she doesn’t look so much like a debt spender. Anyone else see the irony here? Too bad the U.S. Government doesn’t have someone like Max to pick up the debt tab.
I’m begining to think that her running for Governor is a solution. We send her packing and she and Max can finally settle down in the DC suburbs. No way she wins for Gov after her votes of the past few months. Not with the solid opposition she will get and millions spent against her.
Earlier you released the IP address of an anon blogger in an effort to divert attention away from the comment, yet the comment was displayed for several hours after you released the address. You allow anonymous comments. Why not just edit or delete the comment if you felt it wasn’t factual? Do you think a poster would be so obvious if they didn’t have information to back up the opinion?
NJ – I am starting to belive we can beat her also. I thought after Thune voted for TARP she would be competitive against him but not even close now. She is weekening herself everyday Obama is President. Thune however has become more fiscally conservative.
She is vulnerable to any good candidate with $. Especially governor.
in 2010 it will be tough surfing for Obama-mania Dems in Red states. At the legisaltive and statewide level you will see voters/workers/taxpayers getting even with the disgusting excesses of the Obama crowd on economic issues. With Herseth-Sandlin’s ego – does she risk swimming in to the breaker, or think that she can ride it in to the Gov? Either way, as they say in OC (which is in the state where she has lived since she finished high school) — you’re going to pound the sand when this one breaks. Ma’am.
Pat, where in the story was the line about converting to “South Dakota-ism”? If you are going to put quote marks around something you are implying that the Congresswoman or someone in her office acting in her name used that term. It appears that is not the case, but rather this awkward phrase is just something you made up in an attempt to make the congresswoman look stupid.
I would expect better, but maybe my standards are too high.
No, I’m not kidding. You use quotation marks when you quote someone. Pat wasn’t quoting the congresswoman but rather decided to throw some quotation marks around a stupid phrase he made up, thought was funny, and decided to attribute it to Congresswoman Herseth.
That’s just sleazy.
Nick –
For a minute, I thought you were Sibby. Because your argument was so over the top, and just plain and utterly stupid, I’m surprised and left scratching my head that you allowed it to flow forth from your keyboard. The last time I checked the dictionary, “South Dakota-ism” was not a real word. It was one I made up on the fly to describe the quality of being a South Dakotan.
However, if you’re going to quibble about the my of quotations marks around a particular word, please allow me to instruct you as to accepted use. As referenced in wikipedia, for lack of a more immediate source…
Irony
Another common use of quotation marks is to indicate or call attention to ironic or apologetic words:He shared his “wisdom” with me.
The lunch lady plopped a glob of “food” onto my tray.To avoid the potential for confusion between ironic quotes and direct quotations, some style guides specify single quotation marks for this usage, and double quotation marks for verbatim speech. Quotes indicating ironic or other special use are sometimes called scare, sneer, shock, distance or horror quotes. They are sometimes gestured in oral speech using air quotes.
Signaling unusual usage
Quotation marks are also used to indicate that the writer realizes that a word is not being used in its current commonly accepted sense.
Crystals somehow “know” which shape to grow into.
In addition to conveying a neutral attitude and to call attention to a neologism or a slang or special terminology (also known as jargon), quoting can also indicate words or phrases that are descriptive but unusual, colloquial, folksy, startling, humorous, metaphoric, or contain a pun:
Dawkins’s concept of a meme could be described as an “evolving idea.”
People use quotation marks in this way to:
* indicate descriptive but unusual, colloquial, folksy words or phrases
* indicate descriptive but startling, humorous, or metaphoric words or phrases
* distance the writer from the terminology in question so as not to be associated with it. For example, to indicate that a quoted word is not official terminology, or that a quoted phrase presupposes things that the author does not necessarily agree with.
* indicate special terminology that should be identified for accuracy’s sake as someone else’s terminology, for example if a term (particularly a controversial term) pre-dates the writer or represents the views of someone else, perhaps without judgement (contrast this neutrally-distancing quoting to the negative use of scare quotes)The Chicago Manual of Style (CMS), 15th edition[4] acknowledges this type of use but cautions against overuse in section 7.58, “Quotation marks are often used to alert readers that a term is used in a nonstandard, ironic, or other special sense [...] They imply ‘This is not my term’ or ‘This is not how the term is usually applied.’ Like any such device, scare quotes lose their force and irritate readers if overused.”
Please feel free to look at the source reference here.
My usage of quotation marks around the word is considered as a mechanism to convey either “irony” or “signaling unusual usage” (or both).
I realize that you’re one of the big kahunas in the South Dakota Democratic Party, but if you’re going to do such a thing as call me “sleazy” (quotation used here to distance the writer from the terminology in question so as not to be associated with it), then you’d better not come at me with something so utterly weak that it just ends up embarrassing yourself.
Next time, instead of whipping yourself up into a partisan lather, you might be better off conducting yourself with the civility that you usually display.
-PP
I’ll stand by my comments Pat. Your use of the phrase “converting to “South Dakota-ism”" gave the impression that that awkward phrase was from one of the Congresswoman’s press statements. It wasn’t, it is a term you now admit to making up.
Well, Nick, I notice Pat didn’t put quote marks around the word “kahuna” or “partisan lather.” I guess he must actually mean those things. Either that, or, as per Dawkins, Pat’s meme is still evolving.
“In addition to conveying a neutral attitude and to call attention to a neologism or a slang or special terminology (also known as jargon), quoting can also indicate words or phrases that are descriptive but unusual, colloquial, folksy, startling, humorous, metaphoric, or contain a pun.”
And Nick, I’ll stand by my statement as well. It’s much ado about nothing.
Make that “dissemble.”
dis?sem?ble??[di-sem-buhl] Show IPA verb, -bled, -bling.
–verb (used with object)
1. to give a false or misleading appearance to; conceal the truth or real nature of: to dissemble one’s incompetence in business.
2. to put on the appearance of; feign: to dissemble innocence.
jackrabit1, right now, we’re just wondering, from a clinical, biological standpoint, whether, when one dissembles, if his/her nose gets longer.
In other words, we’re in it partly for the “science.” (wink)
(And of course, the punctuation.)
If you don’t like PP… then don’t read the blog. This is a blog– opinions are pretty much the norm. Why don’t you get this upset when you (claim in this situation) to get a bs headline from the Argus?
10:59, Who says we don’t like PP?
We love PP.
Especially when he dissembles.
He’s so cute when he blushes.
NN and BF are nitpicky blatherers who are just upset that there are so many arrows being aimed at The Princess.
Don’t engage them.
2:16 it’s one thing to shoot arrows at someone for things they said, and quite another to shoot them for something they didn’t say.
PP’s fake quote is the equivalent of what Sibby et al did to Stephanie on Wikipedia, making something up and then pretending that it’s true.
And then, when they get called on it, trying to pretend it didn’t happen.
If you like that kind of thing and think it’s cool, fine.
That says something about your ilk.
Like why your party’s in the tank for starters.
And maybe even why you post anonymously for another.
Love the way certain libs try to derail the topic here. Don’t let them!
Max is no more a resident of SD than I’m a resident of DC. I took a trip there twice and probably spent more time in DC than he has spent in SD. That does not make me a DC resident anymore than this political ploy makes him a SD resident. Stephanie isn’t really a SD resident either; hasn’t been since a teen. But that isn’t the point here.
If he is ready to actually move to SD, buy a house here and LIVE in it, have his business here, then maybe I’d buy his SD residency.
It’s amazing that you Herseth apologists would even think for a moment that anybody on precious Steffi’s staff would say such a thing.
PP,
Don’t let them side track the message. They engage to change the subject. What we really want to know is can we count on more than one hand the number of times Max has actually been in South Dakota? And did he transfer her credit card balances to his credit card, or how did that all work?
“try to derail the topic”…”side track the message”
Baloney, we’re speaking directly to the message. How many people on this board moved here from somewhere else? How many of you are “South Dakot-ists” who practice “South Dakot-ism?”
The point is, both the topic and “the message” are bogus and you all know it.
p.s. I challenge anyone here to prove they are more South Dakota than I am. Anyone. My family moved into the Black Hills (Custer) in the 1800’s. You’re all carpetbaggers to me, (Except for the Indians.)
If people continue to find out what a great state South Dakota is, we are going to have to put guards at the borders to keep out the riff raff!
You guys are nuts…you have no idea how many times Max has been to South Dakota. It would be very dissapointing to a lot of you to find out just exactly how much Max has been here. You have no idea…you are just blowing through you nose……talk about something that is important.
Nick-I never took Pats headline as quotes. Your way off on this one just fess up you tried to change the topic and PPs excellent rebutal kicked your a–. From a standpoint of residency, she seems more and more like Daschle every day, and mrk my words, she is starting to have his “problems”, that wasnt a direct quote.
8:21 – his trips here when she was running and he was her ‘mentor’ don’t count. Oops, there I go with those quotation marks.
Springer – you and others confuse residence with domicile. One can only have one residence but many domiciles. Take my kid, born & lived here for 3 1/2 years, then lived across the US and overseas for 30 years – yet until this month, he was a South Dakota resident. His sister’s run was about 20 years, similar to my sisters. You and other critics need to get out of the county more often. Those 4+ million US expats running around the globe (and most of those in DC) all have a US state of residence. Recall how Cheney flipped from TX residency back to WY, just before his nomination. State of residence is almost meaningless – unless one needs a state to file papers, file or avoid state taxes, etc. Even thune has a domicile in DC . . . even if he’s sleeping on the couch in his office. Max’s change of residence is only an issue for him and shrills who have nothing else to grouse about.
I confuse nothing,Jon. FYI, I have been out of the country plenty. And I understand the RV’ers who use SD as their address but live everywhere else. The kinda funny thing here is why did Max suddenly decide that he wanted to be a resident of SD vs DC? The living conditions (peace, quiet, neighborliness etc)? Naw, I don’t think so. The lower tax rates for business? Probably not. The lower cost of living vs DC? Meaningless in his case with his money. CLoser to his lobbying work? Of course not. Well, that only leaves about one other reason. Stephanie wants us to think that their family really wants to live in SD. Not too hard to figure this one out. I personally could care less where he pretends he resides or domiciles. The point is this is political, pure and simple. And people DO see thru it. If Stephanie retires from the DC scene, their family actually moves to SD and actually lives here for 90% or more of the year, buys a house and lives in it, run their business from SD, then I might actually believe it. Don’t think there is a snowball’s chance of that happening though, do you?
I thought there were residency requirements???? Does this mean anyone who made one trip to SD can becomce a resident? Max Sandlin is a DC resident and so is his wife.
“actually lives here for 90% or more of the year, buys a house and lives in it, run their business from SD, then I might actually believe it.”
Wow Springer! Do you have any idea how many South Dakota business executives and others, who claim to be South Dakotans, do not meet your criteria? Yes, they have South Dakota driver license along with fishing and hunting licenses. But they really South Dakotans?
Hey Bill. . . my family moved to the Hills is the 1800’s as well. Family on both sides are SD well back into the 1800’s including one of earliest Grads of USD. So, I can call your wager. . . so what? Does not change the topic one bit. I’d also bet that either you or I (well me, anyway) would make a more informed governor than Mrs. Hyphenated.
I wanna…Alice, so send me your picture and platform planks and we’ll get your website goin’ sister. p.s. you don’t play poker do ya?
Bill. . .I said I’d make a better one than Mrs. Hyphenated. Didn’t say I wanted to do it. Poker? Asking me to call your bet or are you calling what you perceive to be some kind of bluff? I owe no one any justification for my statements. I believe you. I care not if you believe me. By the way, the family homestead on one side of family was in Custer. Gosh! Maybe we’re family. I’d be the clear thinking side.
Alice, I was referencing “Poker Alice.” Just messin’ witcha a little, sister. I believe what you’re saying completely. Who would want to say they’ve been from here forever who wasn’t? I mean, come on!
if former Congressman Sandlin sold his house in Texas, where are his 5 kids living?