I’m getting mixed messages here. Using family values to get out of vaccination versus killing grandma via health care worker carried COVID

Definitely getting mixed messages this morning on COVID vaccination.

The first comes in an e-mail blast from the Family Heritage Alliance, offering a few helpful hints on how people might be able to get out of employer required vaccination:

The next comes from the Argus Leader on how unvaccinated nursing home workers are helping to kill the people they’re charged with caring for:

While some state rollouts bogged down under layers of bureaucracy, South Dakota’s vaccine delivery plan streamlined distribution to the state’s major health providers who could go directly to those who needed vaccines. That plan resulted in one of the fastest and highest vaccination rates in the country among the elderly.

But while nursing home residents have seen high levels of vaccination, the people who are paid to protect and serve them haven’t.

and..

In mid-July, the Good Samaritan Society home in Deuel County reported an outbreak. Ultimately, nine residents tested positive and two died. All had been vaccinated.

and..

Across the 142 Good Samaritan nursing homes, there is an 87% vaccination rate for residents as of Thursday. The rate drops to 58% among staff, Schema said.

Read the entire story here. (Subscription required)

The Family Heritage Alliance, defender of family values in the state is trying to give people tools to get out of the COVID vaccine. That kind of seems problematic if their employer is requiring it TO WORK IN A HEALTH CARE SYSTEM.

Why am I thinking that killing Grandma by COVID exposure is not exactly what most of us would consider a family value?

26 thoughts on “I’m getting mixed messages here. Using family values to get out of vaccination versus killing grandma via health care worker carried COVID”

      1. so? one person or a few people out of the 2.5 BILLION people who have received at least one dose died anyway.

        No vaccine has ever been 100% effective. Some people have immune systems which just don’t produce antibodies to certain vaccines. 5% of the population does not produce antibodies to the Hepatitis B vaccine, for example.
        There will always be a small percentage of “non-responders.”
        No way should the existence of non-responders be used as an excuse to refuse a vaccine.

        1. Do you know what’s happening in Israel right now regarding the vaccine?

          Research the “vaccine” and choose to get it or not.

          1. I took your advice and googled covid vaccine and Israel
            first thing to come up was a graph and the information that 64.7% of the population is fully vaccinated.
            Then a headline says the vaccine blunts but does not defeat Delta.
            Another headline says they are starting to give booster shots. In that article there is data showing the Pfizer vaccine works.

            If you are shocked by the need for boosters, have you ever looked at the pediatric vaccination schedule? The shots for Diptheria Pertussis Tetanus Hemophilus Hepatitis B and Pneumococcus are all given three times in the first year.

            What’s your point???

            I personally was a no -responder to the Hepatitis B series..When that was discovered I received a booster shot, and now I have antibodies. The only way to know if your Covid vaccine has worked is to get tested for antibodies.

            1. You get your info from the MSM?

              Research the number of people in Israel getting covid that have been vaccinated.

  1. Thank you for this post. These things need to be said by Republicans. Pat could have avoided this issue like many find it easier to do. Getting the vaccine is the cautious thing, that used to be the conservative thing, the Republican thing. It’s so sad this became politicized how many Americans have died or become sick needlessly by stubbornly believing the misinformation floating around. My nephew couldn’t attend a family funeral and may not see his elderly grandmother before she passes because he refuses to get the vaccine. It makes me want to cry, then get angry, then cry again. Never before has such a high number of Americans resisted getting a vaccine. If everyone had it by now we would be avoiding the mask mandates (and related conflicts) that are likely to come after it gets FDA approval.

    1. I totally agree. The vaccine broadly taken is good for public health.

      At the same time, let’s not give the CDC and all the other vaccine advocates a pass. Their habitual lying (and as Peggy Noonan said in the WSJ on Saturday their palpable disdain for the masses) has a significant role in people not taking the vaccine. Chicken Little gave up his credibility and for that we will all suffer.

      1. How about not giving the innumerable GOP officials a pass who continue to actively sandbag vaccination efforts too?

          1. In national politics we have an abundance of choices:

            Mo Brooks
            Marjory Taylor Greene
            Ron Johnson
            Thomas Massie
            Andy Biggs
            Paul Gossner
            Rand Paul
            And many many more…

            Some have compared pushing vaccines to the Holocaust (Greene) to writing letters to the president to try to stop public information campaigns (Biggs, Gossner, Brooks, and more) to Trying to stop mandating vaccines for the Military as a matter of readiness (Massie) to pushing baseless conspiracy theories about the vaccine (Greene, Brooks, Gossner, and more). Rand Paul is proudly unvaccinated and has been lying publicly about how (paraphrasing) People who have had Covid have better immunity than those who have been vaccinated – and that the vaccine doesn’t protect against variants. Both of these are demonstrably false based off of the data we have.
            Every last one of the names above have gone out of their way to try to encourage people not to get vaccinated.

            1. Anthony, I do not give them a pass and I am critical of everyone on your list except Rand Paul.

              He has held the position that natural immunity is more robust than vaccinated immunity (supported by the % of vaccinated and previously infected who have “breakthrough cases”).

              Further, he has yet to see any science that vaccination enhances immunity or possibly over time diminishes it so he is waiting for the science.

              Add to the list if you want and I’ll probably express criticism of their position.

              That said, nobody on your list was ever expected to be credible and believable experts who followed the science. The CDC is wholly non credible. I take absolutely nothing from them at face value.

              1. Troy, when Dr Paul says “natural immunity” is more robust than getting the vaccine, people think he is talking about lifestyle choices and that they can be protected from the disease with diet and exercise.
                Of course that’s not the natural immunity he’s talking about; what he is talking about is getting sick, REALLY sick, and hoping to survive it. That’s called “naturally acquired immunity.”. Unfortunately his statements have been misunderstood.
                If enough folks get sick and survive we will reach herd immunity. Too bad about the ones who will die though.

                The unvaccinated have volunteered to do their part. for humanity by developing naturally acquired immunity. Many of them will die. I will hold my applause.

                1. Anne, I think you are missing his point and I know you are missing mine.

                  Dr. Paul got Covid before there was a vaccine. His point only is he has natural immunity and the science so far says his natural immunity is more robust than vaccinated immunity AND there is no science on the impact of the vaccine (especially the RNA vaccines) on his natural immunity. Thus, he is only saying those with natural immunity should not be forced to take the vaccine until there is evidence it at least does no harm.

                  And, I agree with that. Until the science says otherwise, we should not be mandating or pressuring on a whim, as to do so hinders the credibility of those who should be communicating to us only what the science tells them.

                  1. I had antibodies to covid a year ago, which explained some cardiac problems I have been having (PCR test when I was really sick was evidently false negative) . By February they were no longer detectable so I got the Janssen shot and after that I had both IgM and IgG antibodies.
                    went to HyVee yesterday and got tested again: the IgM antibodies are gone but the IgG are still there.
                    (I don’t know what my T cells are doing)
                    People who have recovered from covid probably don’t need to be vaccinated but if they don’t get tested they won’t know.

                    I have seen enough social
                    media posts from anti-vaccine people declaring they are going to rely on their natural immunity, which they maintain with dietary supplements, to realize they don’t know what naturally acquired immunity is or how unpleasant it is to get it.

                    And these RNA viruses are tricky little bugs. They mutate rapidly; that’s why influenza has to be tracked around the world and every year it’s a new vaccine. We can expect the same with Covid.

  2. Why is this part of the Family Heritage Alliance’s mission?

    It always seems like a potential problem to me when a strong organization like this gets too far off their core mission.

    What if 20% of their members or supporters disagree with this?

  3. Spot on, Pat. I know the Left has overstepped on mask mandates and shutdowns, but we need to keep some common sense on getting vaccinated if you’re caring for the frail or elderly. FHA is losing credibility.

  4. Unlike Jennifer Anniston, the Family Heritage Alliance probably won’t kick the dissenters to the curb.

  5. We’ve been financial supporters of the FHA are highly disturbed by their stance.
    We are a family of Medical Doctors. Eight doctors + are in our family line. The most recent graduate of medical school is our son. It took him 13 years of training to become board certified. He graduated valedictorian of Stevens HS, Phi Beta Kappa at Gustavus Adolphus, & Alpha Omega Alpha for academic excellence at Tulane School of Medicine. After 8 years of academic excellence in universities, he trained in a residency 5 additional years, and then 2 more in a fellowship. He is a medical authority! He is published in numerous medical journals & text books. HE IS VACCINATED! His wife and staff are vaccinated. His children are too young to be vaccinated and they live in Tampa where 5,599 students and 316 employees in Hillsborough County Public Schools are in isolation or quarantined as of today, 8/16/21!!! They are terrified for their children!!
    As a child, the Polio vaccine became available and people ran to get vaccinated. Now polio is nearly nonexistent in the world because people clamored to get vaccinated. COVID too will be nearly nonexistent when we all are Christian enough to love our fellow man, and child.
    How can you turn loving mankind by wanting to get vaccinated to protect yourself, as well as others, into a political ploy? Remember FHA, Jesus said, “love thy neighbor as thyself”. Jesus loved children. Please do the same. Get vaccinated, the Delta variant is the most deadly yet.
    P.S Over 1500 medical facilities now require staff to be vaccinated to protect the medically vulnerable coming into their facilities. Over 97% of medical doctors are vaccinated. If the medical minds know how dangerous COVID and its ever changing variants are, we’d better get vaccinated before our obituary is run in the local newspaper and large medical bills arrive for the family after death.

    1. Judy,

      Do you want to bet your house on the “vaccine” that still lets you get covid and spread it?

  6. I had a vaccination as soon as I could get it. I do thank President Trump for his efforts in getting the process streamlined. However as I understand it, the vaccine has not received the OK from the CDC, just authorization for emergency use.
    Each person has to decide whether the vaccination is for him/her. In this country we used to believe that we could choose what we put into our bodies. BTW, after looking at the list above, I noticed Ron Johnson on the list. As far as I know, he is not anit-vax, but does believe each person needs to make the choice. MJT may or may not have had the vaccine. She refuses to say. That is also her right. I find the people who are trying to force people to take a vaccine they do not feel is right for them is very scary. We also have Big Tech censoring people because they spread information that BT does not agree with. Is this really what you want? BTW, we also have recommendations to use a mask that more and more evidence shows they are not very effective–especially cloth ones most people wear.

    1. I’m not anti-vax. I’m anti experimental gene therapy that is not a vaccine.

      If a Republican or Conservative tells you that you are anti-vax, tell them to pound sand.

  7. Hey Pat,
    If you are open to discussing our email and the links that were included, please feel free to give me a call or drop me an email. Your writing has always been very measured and thought-through, and in my opinion, asserting that FHA is on-board with “killing grandma with COVID exposure” is a departure from that.

  8. Oh, but each of you decrying the injection of an “experimental” vaccine are forgetting that the Saulk vaccine for polio operated under the same criteria as the Covid vaccine is today.

    And, when YOU get ill, should you, and go into the emergency room, will you complain at the level of care you receive when you are placed in a hallway because no beds are available because of all the other non-vaxxers ahead of you?

    Right to Life??!! Right to Die?!! Right to kill (infect) others?!! (Knowing or unknowing!)!!

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