Kristi Noem Fact Check Gnomes recap the Gubernatorial Debate

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Well… I think there’s one way to sum up our fact check of the KELOLAND Debate: Billie Sutton says one thing, but his record shows something completely different.

Billie Sutton Says One Thing: “I am pro-life.”
But Does Another:

  • Held fundraiser with Planned Parenthood’s leadership
  • First hire was a pro-choice Lt. Governor
  • Opposed stricter penalties on those performing abortions on pain-capable unborn babies

Billie Says One Thing: “I did not support legislation legalizing marijuana.”
But Does Another:

  • Sponsored a bill that would make it legal for someone to have marijuana in their system
  • Sponsored a bill to allow people from out of state to legally possess and use small amounts of marijuana if they hold a medical cannabis card from another state

Billie Says One Thing: “My opponent says I support a state income tax.”
But Does Another: Nope… It was Billie Sutton who proposed a state income tax.

Billie Says One Thing: “We need to make sure we have an … accountable government.”
But Does Another: But when Billie had the chance to provide oversight over GEAR UP, he didn’t ask the tough questions. Instead, he took $11,000 in campaign contributions from the defense attorneys.

Here are some of the things Kristi talked about:

-The Fact Check Gnomes

59 Replies to “Kristi Noem Fact Check Gnomes recap the Gubernatorial Debate”

  1. JKC

    So, I think she really blew it at the end when she more or less said that she would not live in the Governor’s mansion. But when you are a congresswoman who uses her Capitol Hill office as her apartment, then I guess we should already know that she is really not keen on being a full-time public official….

    #PartTimeKristi

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          1. Anonymous

            She answered it well. She has a son still in school and her husband’s business back home. The idea of opening up the Governor’s mansion to the public is an AWESOME idea! Billie said the same answer but with no ideas for the building in the future. Any logical person knows the amount of time you spend in a mansion isn’t going to deter your efficiency as Governor. And the idea that she didn’t do her job in congress is a blatant and utter myth. She’s done more than maybe 12 other individuals in her time in congress. She truly gave South Dakota a voice and did big things from allowing states to defund PP to passing the Farm Bill. Billie on the other hand, has done nothing but stew in Pierre watching more corruption in his 8 years than we’ve ever seen while Kristi was in DC draining the swamp. Kristi is not only the better candidate than Billie, she’s a better candidate for Governor than we’ve seen in 20 years. Billie on the other hand would be the WORST choice we’ve made in 40 years.

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            1. Comman sense

              There’s a reason we are ranked the most corrupt state in the country. Kristi was Rounds lap dog when she was in state legislator. EB 5 was rounds baby and the genesis of gear up was under him. She did nothing to prevent any of this. They ran the state off the rails, then tried to close all are small schools down to pay for it. Then came up with our idiotic property tax system, that is breaking our farmers. The farm bill that she takes credit for, she only showed up for 4 hearings out of 21. The only thing she was concerned about was the crop insurance scam, which benefited her husband because he sells it. Crop insurance is socialism at it best, taxpayers subsidize the premium and claims. The draining swamp term is laughable she is the swamp. She’s drowning in corporate money.

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  2. Anonymous

    Well, it was pretty obvious who will best fill the role of our next governor. Who was stronger, wiser, the biggest visionary, the one with a plan, the most experienced and has and will utilize the most resources to lead and improve our state? Obviously, Kristi Noem. Governor Noem.

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    1. Nick

      Let’s look back at 2016. You have an educated women from within the political establishment with a plan who in that race was “the most experienced and has and will utilize the most resources to improve our..” country. The Republicans voted for a guy who can barely talk in coherent sentences for more than two minutes without a teleprompter. You’re posting on why to vote for Noem does not make sense a Republicans totally went against those arguments in 2016.
      That being said I had a different perception of how she came across and it’s not what you stated. I just am noting the hypocrisy in your post.

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      1. duggersd

        Republicans did not vote for a guy “who can barely talk in coherent sentences for more than two minutes without a teleprompter”. That was President Obama. You have your talkers mixed up. As for that “educated woman”, I am thinking your are talking about Hillary who was nothing until she married Bill Clinton and has no real accomplishments short of getting a US ambassador killed.

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        1. Nick

          No Im talking about our current President. He is incredibly incoherent at times.

          As for Hillary. Yes I was talking about her. Yale Law? First student ever to give a commencement speech at her undergrad, published in the Harvard Education Review, worked in Washington all prior to marrying Bill. There are people, myself included, that believe by putting her ambitions aside for Bills it cost her a step back rather then a step ahead.

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          1. Fled to Red

            Just because you have trouble understanding, that does not necessarily imply that the messenger is incoherent. Maybe you’re just not good and understanding certain issues?

            There are people, myself included, that believe by putting her ambitions aside for Bills it cost her a step back rather then a step ahead

            a) Case in point, or
            b) I believe the marijuana discussion is a little further down the page

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            1. Nick

              Try to read transcripts of his speeches. They are incoherent babbling.
              Case in point what? That women can’t have careers before finding a husband and sometimes they put those ambitions on hold for their husband?
              Are you implying that because I don’t think like you I have to be on drugs? There goes Republicans and their safe spaces again. How dare anyone think differently than I do.

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          2. duggersd

            I forgot just how eloquent President Obama is. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8I4Jsf9IwoQ
            Hillary was probably one of the worst candidates to ever be nominated. Her list of accomplishments included a failed health care launch, the chief bimbo eruption destroyer of life of otherwise innocent women, 1 ambassador and three others killed, but at this point what difference does it make?, and a foundation steeped in corruption.

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            1. Comman sense

              Republicans had to run a life-long pro abortion New York Democrat to win an election. 4 bankruptcies, 3 divorces, numerous affairs, several sexual harassment lawsuits. Unprotected sex with a pornstar(a true sign of wisdom and judgement). I guess there’s a reason we never hear about family values anymore. But hey him and kristi are best friends! Oh ya I forgot draft Dodger, those damn bunions.

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              1. duggersd

                Republicans did not run this guy. He ran as a Republican and won the nomination. Last I saw, NO Republican wanted him as the nominee. And if the guy is as terrible as you paint him, that says A LOT about the lady (I use that term loosely) who ran against him, spent more money and coughed herself to the finish line.

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                1. Anonymous

                  I’m not painting him as anything just stating facts. I didn’t support Hillary Clinton either. Left it blank because it’s illegal to write in candidate for president in sd.

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                  1. Anonymous

                    It also says a lot about the Republican party in this state. If bin laden ran as a Republican would you vote for him also?

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                    1. duggersd

                      I did not vote for Trump because he was a Republican. I voted for him because he was the best choice among several other choices. It turns out I was right.

                  2. duggersd

                    But you are implying the Republicans are behind him. The fact of the matter is they are not. They do not like that he is trying to move the power to the people instead of Washington. Paul Ryan is nowhere to be seen. Other Republicans denounce him every chance they get. Yet his “lies” turn out to be true.

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  3. Jenny

    Typical negative and catty Noem debate. So instead of the expected Hillary jab,she chose the Bernie jab. She was frothing at the mouth to start the attacks.
    It is clear who wins on decency.

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    1. Anonymous

      They were both going negative. Kristi just had way more to work with. You can vote for Billie out of sympathy, I’ll vote for Kristi because she has literally everything else. Intelligence, experience, achievements, background. Billie got paralyzed by a horse and wears a hat…. that’s about it

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      1. Anonymous

        Yes, his supporters are definitely using the victim card.
        Can’t use the race card – he’s white.
        Can’t use the gender card – he’s a man.
        Can’t use the class card – he’s rich.
        Can’t use sexual orientation – he’s straight.

        So, they use his handicap to their advantage. Claiming victim status is what Democrats do best.

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        1. Anonymous

          The AP article Sutton mentioned highlights his handicap in the second sentence. The second sentence; Sutton should be ashamed they are using his accident to further the campaign.

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  4. Anonymous

    Yeah- Kristi looked kind of pathetic for being the “front runner”. There was no Midwest nice in her or really any class at all. He took the high road and disagreed without being disagreeable.

    She’s no Thune by any means.

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    1. A lowly independent

      well Thune wasn’t the greatest public speaker at the beginning either, now he’s came along, although I wish he’d frickin’ stand up to some of these pigs in washington, especially the delusional senate leader.

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  5. RJ

    Who fact checked her? Currently and over the span of her “government” service? Billie is the most middle road politician we’ve seen in a long time. Why are you unwilling to meet halfway?

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    1. Former Legislator

      Look, I served with Billie for a number of years. When he’s started talking about all the laws he passed or pushed it puzzled me because I had no recollection of any of them so I went back through his list of bills sponsored in the years he served and found same as nothing.
      The only person that is distorting Billies voting record is Billie.

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      1. Comman sense

        Kristi flat out lied about not taking any corporate money. She took 500,000 from the GOP governors association. Go to their website and look at their current donor list. Big oil, tobacco, insurance, pharma, koch brothers, Walmart ect….

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    2. Anonymous

      Who fact checks you, RJ? Wasn’t it you who said the GOP is racist and homophobic? How is it that you’re able to handle the conflict encountered when you find out an immigrant, POC and/or a LGBT person supports the GOP? Must be tough.

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    1. Anonymous

      Where there’s smoke, there’s fire. And he paid personally for a questionnaire sent to citizens to see if it would fly. AND it’s part of the SD democrat’s platform and IF elected, he’d try and uphold that, of course.

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    2. Anonymous

      Use your brain. No Pro Lifer is EVER going to say “Why no discussion about legalizing abortion.” No pro-2A person is going to say “Why no discussion about banning guns?” No ‘Fiscal Conservative’ is going to say “Why no discussion about a personal income tax?” WAKE UP. You don’t become the minority leader over the Democrats by having Conservative values, quite the opposite rather.

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  6. A lowly independent

    what is so bad about marijuana?! i don’t understand the R’s position on this…. Its like they want to control every aspect of my life. Oh wait they always have! Thanks you wankers! Don’t tread on me! Vote 3rd party!

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    1. Anonymous

      If you do not like the R’s position you are really not going to like a new political party forming. The Puritan Party of South Dakota. Regaining control of a country that has lost it’s way bringing God, Government, fear and control into your living room and bedrooms. It will be the opposite of the Libertarian Party.

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  7. anonymous

    Why don’t you liberals go post on your own blog? Kristi dominated this debate and yes Billie is a nice guy … just not the person to run SD!

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    1. Nick

      Post on our own blog? I didn’t know Republicans in this state were so big on safe spaces? I’m here to debate the issues and if you can’t defend your stances that says something.

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    2. duggersd

      Because there is not a liberal blog that anybody reads. The only one that gets ANY attention is the one that says something dumb and then gets linked to it by this one.

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  8. Anonymous

    After Kristi’s response of saying she doesn’t like discrimination yet would over turn marriage rulings if given the chance I think it would be VERY hard to find an lgbt individual who would support her. “Nasty women” Trump’s words not mine.

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    1. Anonymous

      Cause our lgbt community is so huge here in sd? Im glad she said that. Finally, someone who wont bend to the self appointed “special” group status that forces people to cater to them or else! Whether you believe in the traditional family or not.. she does. And she will defend that. Im sick of hearing about how discriminatory it is to believe in the traditional family cornerstone and how awful we are for not thinking two men should be married or vice versa.. they want that, then move to a state that lets you do that.

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  9. Anonymous

    You do realize that lgbt individuals do have friends, families, coworkers, neighbors, etc so the effects have what she said does have multiplers? Its not a your gay or your not and if your not then you think gay is bad situation. Also, many people who live her know individuals that have moved to more accepting areas. Just because the lgbt community is not as large as say Minneapolis dont be fooled into thinking other people didn’t take not of what she said.
    Why should they leave the state? Again this goes back to people on this blog wanting a safe space for themselves. Lgbt individuals are born here, have South Dakota values, have friends and family here. They should not have to move to guarentee the same rights and protections for the person they love.

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    1. Anonymous

      Yes, and they don’t hate her or think she hates them because she has a definition of marriage that’s different from theirs. The majority of the LGBT community does not hate people because they don’t have the same beliefs as them. It’s only a minority of extremists who try to push the narrative she’s hateful.

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      1. Anonymous

        Do you even know any lgbt people? The moment she said that she wants to deny them their ability to marry the person they love I guarantee their blood boiled

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        1. Anonymous

          I strongly doubt their “blood boiled”.. thats the denocrats for you tho. They have been using the lgbt crowd as their political pawns. Hence why the #walkaway movement is happening.

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          1. Anonymous

            Anyone who watched the debate or watched Kelo’s clips, knows she didn’t say that. Would @9:26’s comment be considered libel? Smart choice posting as Anonymous.

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      1. Anonymous

        There is nothing that proves the majority of LGBT communities are hateful. Yes, there are some who want to force people to use certain pronouns, bake cakes, arrange flower bouquets… you get my point.

        Brandon Straka, the gay former progressive who started the #WalkAway movement said Conservatives have “warmly embraced” him since he’s told his story. It’s the left who are intolerant and bully him.

        There are people in the LGBT community who support Kristi, they just don’t need to announce it to everyone. Republicans don’t separate people into victim groups and use them, that’s what Democrats do.

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