Lora Hubbel thinks the DOH is going to repossess your car, and possibly eat your babies.

Lora Hubbel is mass spamming e-mail boxes this morning, using a list that many think she appropriated from the Minnehaha County Republicans.

I may have been musing about the “eat your babies” part in the post title, but her new rant today regards House Bill 1058, which seems to be a simple bill to clean up language, and make it applicable to diseases that aren’t specifically codified into law, so they wouldn’t have to have a special session if someone brought Ebola to the state.

Predictably, Lora takes that premise and says that if you have a fungus, she thinks THE STATE could seize your vehicle and luggage:

My take on HB 1058 (see link…you may want to print it out and follow along) http://legis.sd.gov/Legislative_Session/Bills/Bill.aspx?File=HB1058P.htm&Session=2015&cookieCheck=true has been written by the Executive branch (that in and of itself is a violation of our SD Constitution…even though we have allowed this for a long time). HB 1058 takes our current state law on managing Tuberculosis (SDCL 34-22) and guts it…replacing all the intensive state laws that used to be reserved for TB (SDCL 34-22-7), a single bacterium, and now applies state control over “contagious/communicable” diseases (both terms mean the same medically) This bill’s definition of contagious/communicable is very broad and could be construed to include the common cold and thousands of viruses, bacteria, fungi, parasites, toxins, etc.

I find it interesting that right after President Obama makes an Executive Order to further implement ObamaCare making respiratory diseases subject to government control, isolation and quarantine…* The SD Dept of Health does even worse in this HB 1058.

Obviously if the state wanted to keep us safe from Ebola (as they are lobbying) they can just refer to Category I reportable diseases (Ebola’s generic name is Viral Hemorrhagic Fever…see http://doh.sd.gov/documents/diseases/infectious/RptDiseaseList.pdf )

What could happen if you have a contagious/communicable head cold? South Dakota wants to be able to:

1) Seize your vehicle and luggage, etc. They use the word “conveyance” which means “vehicle” when used as a noun, or “to transport” when used as a verb (Section 2).

2) Slap a Class II misdemeanor on you if you possibly have a cold and expose yourself to others in a public place (Section 4).

3) Control sick people by monitoring, quarantine and isolation (Section 7-5)

4) Demand that you be supervised to take the prescribed medical treatment and procedures for prevention (vaccines?) (Section 7-8)

5) Surrender to prescribed screening for state testing of communicable diseases (Section 8)

6) AND the personnel gathering your blood and administering treatments/vaccines do NOT need to be licensed (Section 9)

7) The STATE has authority to consult with doctors and others in diagnosing your cold or suspected cold (contagious disease)

8) The STATE wants the authority to enforce eradication of communicable diseases (they seriously wrote this!) which is a “cold” by this definition… through isolation, prevention (vaccine?) and treatment. (Section 12)

9) All confirmed cases of communicable diseases shall be under the surveillance of the department, which will diagnosis, control, and declare treatment of communicable diseases. (Section 14)

10) All category I reportable diseases (this is the first place the new bill mentions category I diseases and Ebola is already on this list under its generic name “Viral Hemorrhagic Fever” see link above) And a person suspected of having a communicable disease (possibly a cold) proclaimed by the department SHALL ACCEPT DIAGNOSIS AND TREATMENT OR IS GUILTY OF A CLASS 1 MISDEMEANOR. (Section 15)

11) You may hire your own doctor BUT ALL SUSPECTED AND CONFIRMED COMMUNICABLE DISEASE shall be under surveillance of the department (section 16)

Jeez. My head hurts from all the crazy.

27 Replies to “Lora Hubbel thinks the DOH is going to repossess your car, and possibly eat your babies.”

    1. Anonymous

      I read the bill, and I read Lora’s commentary. The only part, in my honest opinion, where she gets goofy is where she says they will take your car and luggage. The law uses conveyance to mean public transportation, such as a plane or bus, that could be harboring the pathogen. Otherwise I think she’s right on !

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  1. Troy Jones

    Safety and protection of foreign and domestic threats is a legitimate role of government embraced by GOP principles. And sometimes that includes grave biological threats.

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    1. Anonymous

      Only moderates and liberals think we need more government to protect us from ourselves. Any excuse to expand government, and raise taxes. How on earth did this country succeed for so long without your beloved nanny state?

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    2. Anonymous

      Only moderates and liberals think we need more government to protect us from ourselves. Any excuse to expand government, and raise taxes. How on earth did this country succeed for so long without your beloved nanny state?

      You moderates fight doing anything about illegal immigrants who bring these diseases into the US, but enact laws to go after sick Americans who contract the diseases from the illegals that you allow to be exploited?

      Logic only a moderate/liberal can understand.

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      1. Anonymous

        the fact is we need coherent enforcement of immigration laws and i don’t think many people dispute that. your high-horse attitude is what takes the cake buddy. i’ve had it with hearing the hardcore-conservative complaint that all non-hardcore-conservative republicans are all just like the clintons. well screw you all too. do you want to hear a broad brush evaluation of your kind? you’re all smart in certain skills but stunningly ignorant in the political skills you think you’re trying employ. your rope-a-dope reaction to every headfake the democrats offer just make us facepalm and cringe every day. WE don’t set us back, YOU set us back. you’re embarassing and we endure it just so you can come to blogs like this and tell US what terrible “repubocrats” we are. we endure it because we are the larger mass of the larger party, and we want to preserve the big tent. you don’t. why don’t you become official libertarians and advocate the adoption of a seventeen-year-old national budget plan. rolling back the clock feels really good.

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        1. Anonymous

          ..conservatives are an embarrassment to you? Then why does all your candidates claim to be rock-ribbed hard-core conservatives to fool conservative South Dakotans? Look at Steve Westra’s announcement for Bush. Westra is a nice guy but a flaming moderate, so is Jeb Bush, but what do you see in his announcement? “Conservative… conservative… conservative.. conservative.. conservative… conservative.”. Please! If conservatism is such an embarrassment to you clowns? Stop lying to the public and claiming to be so to fool them into voting for you as faux conservatives!

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          1. Anonymous

            we don’t “lie” to the public – – we ARE the public. that’s what you don’t get. the woeful rats you hate, who won last fall, WON. you didn’t. and someone who is bat*** crazy doesn’t get to call me insane, so someone who is to the right of conservatism doesn’t get to own the whole conservative turf. you don’t get to say i am not conservative just because you’re farther right. that is my point, and i won’t back down. so back atcha baby.

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  2. Anne Beal

    We don’t need the government to protect us from ourselves, but we do need the government to protect us from the anti-vaxxers when they get sick.

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    1. Anonymous

      The USA was measles free at one point. So? Where do all these unusual health outbreaks come from in an inoculated and contagion free community? Illegal immigrants who come in as carriers and unchecked/uninoculated at our borders.

      The chamber of commerce beholding moderates oppose any legislation that addresses illegal immigration. YOU support those moderates!

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    2. Anonymous

      Ya, Anne has a lot of class. She said on facebook that nobody cares if the people who don’t believe in vaccinations all die !

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      1. Anne Beal

        People have a right to die if they want to. You have the right to terminate any treatment at any time. You have that right. But if you are contagious, the public has the right to be protected from you.
        Nobody cares if you want to die. We get a little worried if you want your children to die, but the Republican Party platform avers the right of parents to make informed medical decisions for their children.

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        1. mhs

          Anne, maybe some of the Anon posters here should ask some tribal members in S.D. how they feel about “forced” vaccinations in light of the near-extinction of their people via smallpox and other diseases all we European immigrants brought to North America?

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  3. Anne Beal

    Just so I understand this:
    The true conservatives think the government should abolish the Dept of Health and allow people to send their sick chdren to school with pertussis and measles.
    They should allow people with TB to refuse treatment and go to crowded public places and cough on us,
    They should allow men with AIDS have unprotected sex with anybody they want.
    They should allow carriers of Hepatitis B work in food service.

    This is the belief of true conservatives?

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    1. Anonymous

      This is the problem with big government “Republicans” (oxymoron), there answer (just like the liberals) to everything is more government regulations and more government.

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    2. sicko

      OK oh Great Ones, then explain to me why in the USA has the incidence of ADD, ADHD, allergies, and autism increased dramatically and coincidentally while states began mandatory (and drug-company backed) mass immunizations. While at the same time in countries with no government-mandated vaccinations these maladies are nearly non-existent. Not to mention all the dead and maimed children and teens (think of the grossly dangerous HPV vaccine) who were fine before a battery of shots, then changed dramatically overnight. I would much rather see my children at home with measles than have to visit them in a crippled childrens’ home or at the cemetery.

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  4. Anonymous

    or maybe there’s too much government whether republicans want it or not, and the split is between those who advocate firing everyone all at once, and those who want to make the useful parts work better as they plan how to cut things. i’m definitely in the latter camp.

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    1. Anonymous

      Correct me if I am wrong.. “Republicans” have had a super-majority legislature and governor for a long time. How long can we expect them to “plan” on cutting, as they continue to grow government?

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  5. Charlie Hoffman

    Anne truly everyone here is playing a low pressure ball game. When Ebola becomes airborne; meaning carrying on aerobic activity without a host cell being infected first, billions will die with or without preventative measures.

    And it isn’t if it’s when!

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