Thune on Schumer’s regret over Obamacare

From Fox News, it sounds like Democrats are having buyers remorse over Obamacare. Which triggered them being ousted from office:

“Unfortunately, Democrats blew the opportunity the American people gave them,” Schumer told an audience gathered at the National Press Club last week. “We took their mandate and put all of our focus on the wrong problem — health care reform.”

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thune_oct2010Republican leaders were only too happy to pounce on Schumer’s remarks.

“It was fairly remarkable to have the number-three Democrat in the Senate say last week that Obamacare was a mistake,” Sen. John Thune, chairman of the Senate Republican Conference, told reporters Tuesday. “That is a really, really remarkable statement if you think about it.”

Read it all here.

38 Replies to “Thune on Schumer’s regret over Obamacare”

  1. Aaron Pilcher

    Schumer is showing the Democrats’ hand. Obamacare is facing a major setback before the Supreme Court when they decide the legality of the subsidies in states using the federal exchange. After the tax decision Roberts has no reason to go out of his way to save the law anymore. If he’s looking to send a message and stay out of the fray Roberts will assign Thomas to write the majority opinion; the analysis is in his wheelhouse. GOP control of the legislature means the problems won’t be fixed before 2016 in a way that helps Democrats. Amazingly, the manner in which Obamacare was sold, passed and defended will ensure its own defeat (somehow) in the next year and a half.

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  2. Anonymous

    If you seriously think that the Affordable Care Act is ever going away you’re delusional. Once a few million more people (added to the millions already enrolled) have health care that they didn’t have before and people realize that their premiums are much less than they would’ve been if we would’ve allowed the status quo to continue (remember premiums were already skyrocketing), public support will only continue to grow. Plus, Republicans don’t REALLY want Obamacare to go away because then they’d have one less issue to campaign on. Just like abortion. No Republicans actually want to ban abortion because they know they have nothing else to run on.

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    1. Anonymous

      you imply that republicans govern from crisis to crisis, and see manufactured crises as “opportunities.” republicans govern, and they fix things. obamacare is more than a huge political entitlement bundle, it’s the extreme response to the unpardonable sin committed by newt gingrich in the 90s. newt found a clear and concise path to fixing a lot of health care cost and bureaucracy problems, and just as he was set to lead, that path was buried, newt was brutally trashed, and the whole entrenched beltway machine shoved full-speed toward what is now obama care. BECAUSE newt would have ended the opportunities for political leverage by fixing it.

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        1. Anonymous

          Oh, I understand Comrade Anonymous 6:51, you think of the Democrat party as a party of the people. Stalin and Lenin were for the people, except for the millions they killed that didn’t agree with them.

          Did you applaud the way Obama’s IRS squashed freedom of speech and freedom associations right before the 2012 election?

          You are a hater of freedom and a lover of centralized government, apparently.

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          1. Anonymous

            democrats are conditioned to laugh as a first tactic when confronted with their own lesser state of being. ignoring the truth is the next tactic.

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              1. Anonymous

                And on cue, there’s the biggest moron ever known offering … well, zilch as usual. Nothing that anonymous 12:32 stated was fact. Hence, moron is an appropriate adjective to use to describe 12:32.

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                1. Ymous

                  And you will lose more elections in SD with your name calling and no ideas. You hide behind a keyboard and throw stones. Face the man and cast the stone. Coward.

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                  1. Anonymous

                    And you’re not hiding behind a keyboard, village idiot? I don’t coordinate elections; I have nothing to do with elections. I do generate lots of ideas daily and I do have one for you but it’s not very polite so i won’t post it here. Moron.

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    2. Anonymous

      What a rosy, if unfounded, opinion of socialized medicine! I think as the luster has faded from Obama’s presidency and he is being shown for what he is, the support, except among the takers in society, will diminish.

      I also can’t believe that you think pro-life Republicans are actually fans of killing unborn human beings because it gives them what you think of as the only thing Republicans have to run on. You are truly drowning in the koolaid of the Democrat-Socialist party.

      What about total government control is it that you really like?

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  3. Anonymous

    The Dems are in the midst of their own civil war–this is just another battle. The abandonment of Landrieu was another.

    I say that we should just let them implode.

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  4. Anonymous

    “No Republicans actually want to ban abortion because they know they have nothing else to run on.”

    Mmmm, the 2014 elections proved that wrong.

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    1. Anonymous

      Yeah, I thought that was an incredibly stupid statement as well. Obama has given Republicans numerous things to run on: Obamacare, fiscal irresponsibility, massive corruption, nepotism, incompetence, Benghazi, the IRS scandal, Sotomayor and Kagen, and on and on.

      I saw an “I Think Therefore I’m Liberal” bumper sticker the other day and I just about laughed myself into the ditch!

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  5. Anonymous

    “Once a few million more people (added to the millions already enrolled) have health care ”

    Actually, Obama’s own numbers tell us that there are around 1 million NEW enrollees (those who did not have coverage beforee but do now, versus those who were dropped and HAD to enroll in Obamacare).

    1 million more enrollees for billions in new costs? Let’s call that Obamamath.

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    1. Anonymous

      Plenty not to like, especially if you’re a woman, young, black, or latino, who are all suffering mightily under this regime.

      Put your head in the sands of Polyanna Fleming, but to people who don’t look like you, Obama is a disaster,

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      1. Fleming

        What would be a disaster is if more people looked like me. 😉

        Granted, Obama has not been able to deliver as much to minority constituents as many of us would like. I think maybe that’s what Schumer is talking about as well.

        Dems could — and arguably should — have done more for them when they had the votes in Congress to do it. But the pressure was on to hold off a depression and bring the economy back, so that always seems to take precedence whether you or I like it or not.

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        1. Anonymous

          Oh I see.

          The Dem’s effort to hold off a depression by paying off unions and big banks and Wall Street with TRILLIONS of tax dollars took precedence over helping those most negatively affected by that depression!

          My that’s real compassion!

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      2. Anonymous

        I disagree with your premise. I am not a woman, young (I’m not over the hill, but I’m not fresh out of college), black, or latino, and I think myself and other like me are suffering mightily under this regime. Obama is an equal opportunity purveyor of disastrous policies.

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        1. Fleming

          Can you detail how you’ve suffered, anon? Give us 3 things Obama’s done that has caused you such immense harm. In what ways are you worse off now than when he came to office?

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          1. Anonymous

            Sorry, that’s what we have STATISTICS.

            My story (or your, or ours, or our state’s) is highly unlikely to be anywhere near what the majority of others are experiencing.

            This ain’t about you or me or our top 3–it’s about all of US, and we’re suffering under this dunderhead.

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    2. Anonymous

      What is the workforce participation rate, Bill? I think it’s the lowest in like EVER! The unemployment rate as given isn’t an accurate reflection of the actual job situation. Also, there are a lot more folks taking part time jobs as opposed to full time jobs.

      Also, I don’t like Obama because he doesn’t support the Constitution and he enjoys being a tyrant.

      I doubt if the thinking population will be signing a different tune. Obama, your hero, will go down as one of the worst presidents ever.

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      1. Dicta

        It’s not at an all time low, but it is at the lowest it’s been in over three decades. I believe the rate hovers around 62% at the moment, with over 90 million people not in the workforce and not trying to be. Since Obama’s second term began, roughly 12 million people have left the workforce. So while this news is positive, and it is, it’s certainly not all sunshine and rainbows.

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        1. Fleming

          Some of it is the fact that my generation (a huge generation, which has been in the workforce for over 40 years) is retiring.The rest is unknown (maybe people don’t want — or don’t know how — to do the jobs there are to do?) but retirement of the Baby Boomers alone certainly explains a big chunk of the differential.

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            1. Anonymous

              Why is it that you stop posting here Flem?

              Too afraid of the challenges that you have to take refuge back the the MN Times where you are comforted by the sexism, racism, homophobia, and hate?

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    3. anonymous

      Job growth? Certainly not reflected in 15% unemployment for Blacks and nearly 20% unemployment for Black youth– numbers that have gone up steadily since the Beatification of Blessed Barry Soetoro in 2009. Its the same old DemoTard scam–. When they hired temporary census workers in 2010 they ran around beating their chests screaming “Job Growth.” They do fine on temporary and part-time employment, but I haven’t seen a “shovel ready job” in going on 7 years. ( Hmmmm…..let’s see: was that Official Lie No. 20 or Lie No. 15, or what? There have been so many, one loses track of all of Barry’s lies).

      I’ll wager that ACA will, as predicted, collapse under its own weight. The 21-30 crowd have caught on to what a big scam it is, and are not enrolling– by the millions, in fact. That leaves no base to sustain this piece of crap for all the folks who need health care services now. Furthermore, its going to get even more shaky and after His Highness signs up all the illegals he’s now granting amnesty to. Add another 4.5 to 10 million Mexican freeloaders to the ACA rolls free of charge and where’s the money to support their health care coming from? And that’s just the tip of the iceberg.

      — Oh yeah, did I mention that the ACA website– supposedly revamped since the major meltdown of last year– STILL DOESN’T FUNCTION? The kids of Team Obama just can’t walk and chew gum can they?

      I guess most of the American people are not quite as stupid as ACA architect Jon Gruber thinks they are. The only people who keep pointing to the ACA as a “great achievement” are those who supported the bill before they read it (see Jonathan Gruber, above) and the die hard LibTards and ProgBots who still get a thrill up their legs dreaming about the good old days of Tom Dash-hole (as he’s known inside the beltway) and George McGovern. How’s it feel to be an anachronism? Ha ha ha

      This having been said, I think Shumer and old Tom ‘Hog Fart’ Harkin are preparing a trap with their about-face on Obozo Care. By leading the charge against ACA in its current form, they pave the way for Fatt Butt – in – a – pants suit to distance herself from this fiasco. And if elected, she would most assuredly sign measures to replace it with single payer, which is pure and simple Socialism. Hey– it’s the Alinksy way. That’s the new hip.

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  6. Troy Jones

    Bill,

    If that lower participation rate was inevitable due to the baby boom, I wonder why the President and Dems refuse to incorporate that into their projections regarding the deficit, financial condition of Social Security and Medicare and Obamacare revenues/expenses?

    Can’t have it both ways.

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    1. Fleming

      I think they do Troy. Why do you think they say there needs to be a tax increase and that the Bush tax cuts were an exercise in fiscal foolishness? He took an economic surplus from Clinton and ran it straight into the ground.Cut taxes, started two unfunded wars, and did an unfunded Medicare prescription drug benefit. Wipe those out and where does that leave the debt and deficit? Oh wait, can’t take those back? Well, how are YOU going to pay for them then?

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      1. Anonymous

        “I think they do Troy. ”

        No, they don’t–they keep pushing the can down the road. Remember GW Bush in 2005, who wanted to use his political capital to revamp SS? The Dems attacked him like rabid dogs.

        “Why do you think they say there needs to be a tax increase and that the Bush tax cuts were an exercise in fiscal foolishness? ”

        If true, where was the legislation in 2009-2010, when the Dems could do whatever they wanted?

        You’re full of Obamacrap.

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      2. duggersd

        You do not believe the recession we were coming out of from the Clinton years and the impact 911 had on our economy and the increased spending caused by that war had nothing to do with the lack of surplus?

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      3. Anonymous

        re: clinton’s surplus – it was a big parlor trick. it was generated by continued over-taxing after the massive spending cuts of the 90’s. and it was a p.r. tool to avoid actually addressing huge portions of the national debt which remain hidden until some media dope wants to lambast republicans with it. the annual budget surplus which grew in the clinton years wasn’t really used for anything, or it would have sparked a debate about how far short it fell of actually making a dent in this nation’s debt. sadly, the republicans in congress were silent as clinton and the democrats continued to wring big political favor from this “surplus.” they have paid a great price for that silence in the years since then.

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