?We have to pass the bill so you can find out what?s in it,?

I hope most everyone remembers the Obamahealthcare debates and townhall meetings that held.  Finally, the Obamahealthcare bill was passed, signed and is now the law of the land. (The courts are taking a swipe at it now)  Can we please have a look at it now and find out what is in it?

Pelosi We Have to Pass the Bill So That You Can Find Out What Is In It

The Joint Economic Committee has had analysts working on this for several months, sometimes giving up weekends; Peeling layer after layer of bureaucracy over more bureaucracy.  Now they can tell us what is in it, sort of:

  • $569 billion in higher taxes;
  • $529 billion in cuts to Medicare;
  • swelling of the ranks of Medicaid by 16 million;
  • 17 major insurance mandates; and
  • the creation of two new bureaucracies with powers to impose future rationing: the Patient-Centered Outcomes Research Institute and the Independent Payments Advisory Board.

Here is a chart to help you better understand what is in the bill:

you can down load the hi-res version here, (888kb)

Representative Kevin Brady of Texas said this about the chart:

Brady admits committee analysts could not fit the entire health care bill on one chart. ?This portrays only about one-third of the complexity of the final bill. It?s actually worse than this.?

There’s more? This looks more like death by bureaucracy.

That reminds me I need to make an appointment to get my eyes checked.

16 Replies to “?We have to pass the bill so you can find out what?s in it,?”

  1. caheidelberger

    Boy, I’d sure love to hear what our current Congresswoman is doing to fix all this. She promised to (vote to) repeal this boondoggle. When will she hold a public meeting to let us talk about how that effort’s coming along?

  2. Anonymous

    Didn’t you just post that she has a meeting on Aug 18th on your blog??

    More important than CAH’s weird obession, who is Bill Clay and what have you folks done with Troy Jones?

    1. duggersd

      But you can understand that chart? OK, go ahead and explain it. What does a DUI and an incomprehensible chart have to do with each other? And I am sure you are a teetotaler. You have never driven when you probably should not have. I think most of us who are honest would admit there may have been a time or two when we should not have driven and did in our past. Or have you ever been speeding? We all understand the laws, but we all take risks with the law we would be wiser not to.

      1. Anonymous

        The healthcare system is complicated. It need not be understood by the average man/woman on the street because there are people who make it their business to understand these things, and they are paid to do so.

        There are many things understood by experts that are not fully understood by the average beer-drinking congressman either. The Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act is one of those things. Congress members spend most of their time cavorting with lobbyists and raising money at country clubs. They have staff who specialize in specific policy areas who study complicated issues and boil them down to 30 second sound bites for the congress member to demagogue. I’m sure Rep. Brady has competent people on his staff who can explain policy to him sometime between his many social events – if he were interested in understanding.

        1. duggersd

          The fact of the matter is this monstrosity you call the The Patient Protection and Affordability Act has turned out to be very unaffordable. It is killing jobs. Perhaps it is just a coincidence, but have you noticed private sector hiring has been pretty much stagnant since this went into effect? A correlation? Sure. A cause, well you can be the judge. This act is costing more than what they told us it would cost. So just who are the geniuses who gave us the bogus figures? Since they are paid to do our thinking for us, they should be fired. I feel sort of sorry for someone who wants to put his/her faith in some bureaucrat for his/her health decisions.

          1. Anonymous

            You have to provide some data that the Patient Protection and Affordability Act is 1) in effect; and 2) killing jobs. You also have to provide some data what it is costing, otherwise you’re just spouting GOP talking points. Show us the facts to back up your conclusions, genius.
            While you’re at it, provide some proof that bureaucrats will be making people’s healthcare decisions. Isn’t that what was happening in the private insurance market? Those insurance companies can be pretty cutthroat when it comes to denying coverage to boost their profit margin so the CEO can have a fatter paycheck and the stockholders can take the scraps.

            1. springer

              It’s not completely in effect yet, but the tentacles are intertwining, even in SD. The legislature last year approved setting up the infrastructure for Obamacare, much to my chagrin and surprise. I was there when the House approved it, and to say I was surprised is putting it mildly. We had to “pass it to see what was in it,” and we are still finding out what is in it. That is why it’s already a job killer – employers don’t fully know if it will actually come to pass, don’t know what all is “in it,” are afraid of the mandates and extra costs associated with it as pertains to their employees and offered health insurance benefits, whether they will be forced by costs to drop their employer sponsored benefits and pay the extra tax, etc. Uncertainty in all aspects of this monstrosity are preventing job growth. It’s not a Rep talking point; it’s a fact. Hopefully the thing will be struck down again by the Supreme Court. Then lets work to truly reduce costs, not just pass an unconstitutional bill that leads to a single payer system (from Obama’s own lips).

    2. Les

      Interesting you would compare a DUI to totaling our country Anon!

      Tell us about this chart. Expand this chart with the high res download to the point you can’t find your way out! I’ll be waiting with refreshments if you have the cahuna’s.

  3. CaveMan

    Rep. Noem is one of the sharpest, most unflappable women I have ever met in my life. She will beat any Democrat in SD who thinks they are electable for as long as Ms. Noem wants the job. I’d bet the farm on this. The more the Dems try ripping into her the more she will be appreciated. Fake is not a word in her discription which has ever or will ever be able to be applied; and we here in SD love REAL people!

    Lets just make sure we vote with the majority of the people in America next November and oust the most Socialistic President America has ever had. Obama and his thugs need to go.

  4. looking on

    My question is “Should not a elected official represent the people of the area they represent”. They should not represent the party or the ego of a few people……………………..

    1. Anonymous

      A congress person should put the national interest first, parochial interests second, and special interests last. So far Rep. Noem has her order screwed up a bit.

      Still waiting for that balanced budget Rep. Noem and the GOP promised us. So far the GOP is just offering slightly lower but still massive deficits along with tax cuts to fat cats, oil companies and ethanol companies paid for by pulling the plug on future grannies. The Democrats want to tax and spend on the poor and middle class. The GOP wants to borrow and spend on the rich and those corporate “people” who can’t vote but who sure can spend money on campaigns.

      See you at the Country Club on Thursday!!


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