State Representative Dylan Jordan received a sharp rebuke this morning from his predecessor as District Four State Representative.
Former D4 Representative Fred Deutsch had harsh words for his successor over Jordan signing a pledge to pass legislation to take military action against planes that people believe are spreading chem trails in the sky.
“This kooky political pledge has been making is way around conservative circles in South Dakota the last few days. When you see something that’s outrageously wrong, I think it’s important to speak out against it. It’s one thing to express your views about chemtrails, but it’s entirely another to advocate for legislation for the National Guard to “take military action” against aircraft flying over SD. That’s not just kooky, but wrong and dangerous. I wish my friends who signed this would disavow it.” – Fred Deutsch
You might have a difference of opinion with Fred on a number of issues. But he is 100% correct that his successor has failed his district, and South Dakota in providing quality representation to his constituents.
Quality candidates matter. And I should not have to add “not crazy candidates” matter, but apparently I do.
Quit sending these people to Pierre.
Dylan remember what I said about freeloading. You have chores to do as long as you live under my roof!
Mom I am a legislator now with an R behind my name. I don’t have to do chores no more. I can live anywhere I wanna even it it is not in the district. Freedum!
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Fred deserves kudos for calling out his successor for this stupidity.
Sorry Pat.
Fred, Dylan and Vanessa all campaigned under the same umbrella. I have the receipts.
Dylan and Fred are wrapped together like two pieces of rusty barbed wire. Fred is the patriarch.
It’s appropriate to be critical of the votes our legislators take, but since when is it right to criticize a legislator for helping a new candidate learn the ropes of campaigning? Happens everyday in campaigns across America. Schoenbeck did it for both Roe and Sauder. Daugaard did it for Deutsch. Noem did it for Sauder.
Wasn’t too many years ago Schoenbeck knocked on my door and handed me a postcard supporting Deutsch. This past election cycle Schoenbeck supported Sauder. Alliances change.
We hold our legislators accountable for thier votes, not who they campain with.
Pat is right.
Deuel County. The same county that allowed an independent candidate time to speak (and get petition signatures) against another Republican in their Lincoln Day Dinner 2024. He’s the perfect Vice Chair for Mary from Gary.
You know it’s bad when FRED DEUTSCH of all people is the one calling out crazy people.
Agreed! Whackadoodle calling out a whackadoodle. 🤣
When Dr. Deutsch calls you a kook, you know you are officially on the Insaner Than Most list, which you can use the googles to find.
https://m.facebook.com/groups/689462693429636/permalink/696505699392002/?
Add Rep. Logan Manhart to the list.
Thank you Logan! Minnesota refugee, Freedom seeker and Day County Commissioner Jim Walter has also thanked you publicly.
Can we expect Brandei Schaefbauer, Chris Reder, Carl Perry, Al Novstrop along with our Brown County Commissioners to sign the pledge too? How about Michael Rohl?
We need Patriot Toby Doeden to lead on this too!
Good job!
Like the blind hog that finds a nut, Fred is right on this one.
But, for the most part as far as I am concerned,
Mr. Deutsch is damn near as crazy.
There is definitely some mind altering bacteria in the Florence water system.
“Quit sending these people to Pierre.”
You gotta have good people to choose from. In the last election, D4 had three to choose from for House Roe, an articulate lefty, the lady from California who couldn’t put two sentences together to tell pepole why she was running, and a 30 year old libertarian.
D4 voters didn’t have much to choose from.
You don’t think chemtrails are a real thing. I came home from Rapid City a year ago last September and stopped in Hill City to wait for a hail storm to pass. I live about 9 miles south of Pringle. I stopped a couple of miles south of pringle and collected a sample of the hail in a mason jar. I took that sample to be tested in Rapid City. It contained aluminum, barium and strontium. And it had a TDS level of 10 PPM. Tap water is typically ~150 PPM. Double reverse osmosis filtered water can get down to 10PPM. What this means is that the chemicals in the chemspray used to induce weather changes are aerosolized. If you want a copy of the water test, send me an email.
Which proves absolutely nothing.
The South Dakota National Guard has no air defense artillery units. You want them to shoot down aircraft with an MLRS, you ignorant goons?
I’m not advocating this, but the South Dakota guard also has fighter jets. Don’t be so quick to call others ignorant that you end up tripping over your own stupidity.
The Air National Guard and the National Guard are not the same. Although both fall under the governor, they are trained and equipped by different branches of the military. Take your own advice.
Are you familiar with the phrase “distinction without a difference”?
Yes, the Air Force and the Army are the same. How could I not see this?
The air guard and army guard are both commanded by the Governor. The entire argument here is that some want the Governor to use the guard to shoot down planes. Whether that’s the Air Guard or Army Guard is irrelevant. I really hope you don’t serve in uniform; you’re none too bright.
It took about 3 minutes of research to show that all these elements are naturally in precipitation and about 30 seconds do find that “Rainwater typically has a low Total Dissolved Solids (TDS), generally ranging from 10 to 20 parts per million (ppm), although it can vary based on atmospheric conditions and the collection surface.” What you literally proved is that it had nothing to do chemtrails. Thank you.
Only appropriate response is that you’re batshit.
Well, those chemtrails DO contain dihydrogen monoxide, which is found in pesticides, used to cool nuclear reactors, and causes corrosive in iron. 😉
BTW, I remember the Roger Miller song… “Do-Wacka-Do”. 🤣
Let me get this straight – they are advocating shooting down commercial airliners? Am I reading that right? So, mass murder because of bat shit crazy lunacy? Members of that group may well be the dumbest and scariest people on earth.
More likely this refers just to crop dusting aircraft – so just murdering one person at a time.
Civilian and military aircraft are what they aim to legislate to shoot down.
Jon Hansen refused to sign the thing in Deuel county. Good on him for not giving into the bozos.
You mean his team of bozo’s that he held regular coaching zoom calls with leading up to the primary? John Hansen is the leader of the nut jobs, he just might find that he doesn’t have control over them now……and if he wants to win a statewide he needs to distance himself from them.
Radke just threw her endorsement for Jon Hansen.
I am a fan of Hansen but it looks like Toby’s moment.
Both sides have serious problems. Rhoden, Jackley and Dusty hurt each other.
Doeden, Hansen and Haugaard hurt each other.
Both sides need to narrow the field.
Jackley and Rhoden have crossover appeal.
You can astroturf all you want, but that blowhard idiot is going nowhere.
Anyone in attendance at a Lincoln Day Dinner has already made up their mind. Nobody knows him outside of Aberdeen, and the people there hate him.
We do not need extremists as gubernatorial candidates..
Mr. Toby’s moment? BuwahahaHAHAHAHA! That is the best one in a few weeks.
Some tiny fraction of the population knows who Mr. Doeden is, and the vast majority of those people think he is a doofus of the 8th degree.
Toby? BuwahahahaHAHAHAHA!
Well that’s enough for me run screaming. Shameless self-promoting narcissistic opportunist. Just yuck.
You need to understand Jon encourages the craziness and manipulates them to do his dirty work. Don’t be a fool. He’s the worst of them all and simply understands the ways of politics and how to avoid people noticing his stained hands.
Exactly! He is a manipulator, arrogant and thinks people are not on to to him but many are.
Yes. He is a lifelong politician as well. He doesn’t actually “work”. For example, he sits on the board of SDRTL, sending checks out during a primary to those who will vote for his leadership, then pays himself with the Life Defense Fund…..Establishment.
doesn’t a group openly calling for commercial aircraft to be shot down constitute a terrorist organization?
Isn’t there a penalty for that?
Doesn’t Meta suspend the facebook accounts of people who promote violence?
Doesn’t anybody in SD have a phone number to call somebody in the Department of Homeland Security?
Shouldn’t the FBI be bringing these lunatics in for questioning?
I do t agree with them. But let’s be honest about what they’re wanting. They’re petitioning the government to use the military to defend against what they imagine is a threat. They may be delusional. They are not terrorists.
*I don’t agree with them.
When other governments do the same thing, threatening or taking military action based on a false belief, that’s called terrorism. This is no different. There are plenty current examples in the Middle East.
You clearly don’t understand terrorism as a concept.
“The use, or threat of violence against non-combatants to achieve political or ideological aims.” If a foreign government, or a militant group, shot down US passenger airplane (which is what 90% of the planes this groups is talking about are) in that governments or groups airspace and claimed it was because of chemtrails, what would you call that?
What will you call it when, frustrated by the inaction of the National Guard, these nuts decide to take action on their own?
Fred, if your or my friends are asking for crazy s**t like this, we need to find a new friends list fast. This beyond ok. As soon as I see a name that is recognizable to me on this list, I am telling them so and saying, so long. There is crazy things out there that I do not agree with but respect opinions as long as we are not asking to murder. These people do not deserve a seat in Pierre.