South Dakota: Banned in California 

44 thoughts on “South Dakota: Banned in California ”

1. Eight states and counting…will California get to a point where it is banning non-essential employee travel to half the country or more; say, all “red” states?

   1. Let us hope so, Mr. Wyland.

      1. Grudznick it looks as though you are going to make a small fortune with all those goats you have been getting from all the hard lefties. You will have to have someone take them to the sale barn. That is a lot of taters, sausages n gravy at Talleys Silver Spoon. 🙂

         1. I do enjoy defeating Mr. H in a debate, it often drives him or some of those other out of state fellows into a foaming rage.

2. CA has state funds? John Wittman’s comment is spot-on, ppl & businesses are fleeing CA.

   1. One factor could be the cost of living. The Bay area and San Jose are obscene most likely due to a thriving economy. Even those that have well paying jobs in the tech industry bunk up many to a one bedroom apartment. If there are layoffs or a down town in the economy they are gone over night in some cases. People living in campers is not uncommon again with the housing and rental market so high. Supply and Demand forces at work.

      1. MGohn – Yes, many contributing factors: cost of living, entitlement programs, subsidies, etc. Progressives running a state, city or really anything for that matter, only leads to its demise.

         1. KM, There are a umber of factors we can probably go back and forth on but what is California now in rank in the world economy? 6th above Russia or higher now? Did Governor Brown mention they were debt free now with running surpluses? Not sure. It is a very dynamic and diverse economy. Spent quite a bit of time in the San Jose area and a knew a number of native Midwesterners that did quite well there.

3. Unfortunately like it or not South Dakota is building a reputation outside of the state for being very intolerant. Rather than beat around the bush would it be better for the state to embrace it and have the Departments of Tourism and Economic development focus on a certain demographic and let others know they are not welcome here?

   1. MGohn – “very intolerant”? How so? I disagree.

      1. KM, A good example is that our legislator makes national and sometimes international news every year with I lost count since it is just easier to say annually anti-LGBT legislation bills are introduced and sometimes passed.

         1. legislature*

         2. Legislatively responding to the far-left’s intolerant cultural Neo-Marxist agenda being pushed down the throats of our children and grand-children is not anti-LGBT. The use of anti-LGBT and anti-Muslim labels is a totalitarian tactic designed to keep people in line who disagree with their agenda. Sounds a lot like the fascism we saw in Germany back in the day. Ironically, it was the Frankfurt School activists (such as Marcuse) running from Hitler who started this crap in America.

         3. It is not intolerant to expect people to use the restrooms based upon their gender.

            1. duggersd, What would be your standards for gender as to whom gets access to what?

               Based on the topic of this thread it is not just Transgender but other LGBT legislation also which is introduced annually in South Dakota.

               1. Introduced but not passed is not making law. Its ridiculous to base a states budget on bills that don’t pass. California is your typical liberal bully. If you disagree with me I will punish you, humiliate you, label you then financially pummel you. Identity politics is crushing the democrat party. You are just to blind with hate you disagree with to see this.

                  1. ymous,

                     “You are just to blind with hate you disagree with to see this.”

                     That is not the type of person I am and when I testified in Pierre I stated I had no ill will towards the sponsors of a bill and was grateful to be able to meet privately with a few legislators. We actually had a very good respectful and sincere meeting that ended with a prayer which I looked on as a gift. Besides we can find common ground and work together on other issues in the future.

                     What if your child or grandchild came out as GLBT and you know that other this coming out that this loved one shares the same exact values as you, their spiritual faith has never wavered and is certainly not a flaming liberal from California but a grounded South Dakotan? This can happen to any family.

                     1. I have friends of all sexual orientations but I’m not falling for your bate and switch. This has to do with California placing economic sanctations on a state that didn’t even pass the bills. What you stated above has zero to do with my post. Your party loves identity politics and to punish those who you disagree with.

                        1. Bait

                           1. SB140 if that is the correct bill number regarding adoptions and that did pass and was signed into law right? That triggered California into restricting travel.

                              I do not belong to a political party.

                              Not into the Bait game sorry!

                              Whether boycotts are having any affect on South Dakota and the products it produces I have no idea and to what degree. Does it really matter? Some would probably say they don’t need the money from certain groups or states and they can just stay away.

            2. So who is in charge of being the bathroom monitor? Who are these people waving their genitalia around in public bathrooms, I’ve not seen that happen. What about people unfortunate enough to be born with both parts? Where are these people peeing now? What about the male janitor cleaning the female restroom and vice versa?

   2. Intolerant to the intolerant? How does that work? Californians in the Northern part of the state would like to secede from the southern socialist/pagans, and I wish they would succeed.

      I for one am not going to go contrary to my beliefs to placate a bunch of militant, immoral socialists.

   3. Intolerant? How about the Hollywood movie stars who are promoting Trump’s death through speeches and/or shirts??? Johnny Depp, Whoopi Goldberg, Madonna, Kathy Griffin, etc. Everyone should boycott them for being so nasty and intolerant.

4. If any private employer tried to pull this on their workers they’d have lawsuits galore. Huge infringement on personal liberty.

5. First, I think it a reflection of the deep seated intolerance of today’s liberal. If you disagree with them, retaliation is to be expected especially from the power of the State. And how is this not a form of bullying? Maybe the answer is to require California to take a bullying class.

   Second, how is this exercise of conscience different from conservatives or people of faith wanting to exercise their conscience besides they agree with one conscience but not the other? Hmmm, takes us back tolerance.

   Third, their hubris is hilarious. Do they think anyone who doesn’t support their political agenda gives a rip what they think?

   Fourth, why are they stopping at this issue? Why don’t they add our abortion, gun, minimum wage, business regulatory, and every other midwestern, traditional policy we have? Is this an issue and position once held by all Presidential primary candidates less than a decade really now that transcendent and central?

   Fifth, of all the states on their list were to return the favor (I don’t advocate it as the whole thing is silly), net-net California likely would be hurt more economically. In other words, California is able to climb on their high horse without the implication as they expect those on the list not to be as petty.

6. Troy, Whether you believe it is unfair or not South Dakota is continually developing a negative reputation outside the state and it is not just in California. Others may look at that reputation as a good thing. Could this be turned into an opportunity for the state that has long been controlled by the state Republican Party to be more assertive on this as to how the state markets itself?

   1. Miranda who is South Dakota developing a negative reputation with? I travel for a living and have yet to meet that person(s). Is that a fact that Ca. is debt free? I just read a article about all of the unfunded State pension liabilities that article must be wrong if Ca. is debt free.

      1. Oldguy, I stand corrected on California being debt free which was a surprise to me when Governor Jerry Brown was on CBS 60 minutes. Thank you! Todays LA Times has a story on their fiscal situation. http://www.latimes.com/politics/

   2. You make it sound like we should be ashamed or embarrassed. Most people in this state are proud of our beliefs and policies. You have to remember that outside the sliver along the coast, California is much more like South Dakota.
      For the last 2 years, SD has been ranked #1 for incoming migration. Why is that? Because they are tired of the attacks on their values, high taxes to support excessive government, and regulations on every facet of life.
      We don’t take kindly to freeloaders, criminals, and loud mouthed liberals calling us backwards and stupid. If that’s what you think about us then yes, please, stay out!!

      1. Anonymous 9:44

         California has very complex challenges given the diversity of the population and their economy. It is a world apart from the deep upper Midwest. Population differences obviously. Not all LGBT are liberals since they come from different backgrounds. My great grandmother homesteaded near Kennebec, South Dakota and is still being farmed by my relatives. My roots run deep here in South Dakota and I love the land and people. Rather than tip toe around the subject would you propose those who are just LGBT move out of South Dakota rather than deal with ballot initiatives and have it brought up in our legislature annually? We don’t need these type of people here in South Dakota?

         This past year a transgender person was hassled so bad in Pierre this person had to quit their job. They were relentless and encouraged this person they would be better off dead and this person ended up committing suicide. They celebrated this persons suicide afterwards.

         1. Pat I posted above. I cleaned the memory on my computer and my name did not show up.

7. I really don’t believe this is a bad thing.

   I will not let California, or any other state, dictate policy for South Dakota. If we get negative reputation for it, then so be it.

8. Just how would California enforce this anyway ? the next step will probably be to put a monitor on any Californian leaving the state.

9. Miranda,

   I’m not sure I understand your last question about making this an opportunity but with regard to reputation:

   1) I went to college on the East Coast and a majority wondered to the degree we had modern amenities. The magnitude of their ignorance outside of their own world makes this matter insignificant. I’ve always said the average South Dakotan is more cosmopolitan (defined on actually visiting places outside their own world) than a majority of the people on either coast who consider 90% of the landmass of the US flyover territory.

   2) When I look at the chaos in the regions of the country looking down on us, I’m not exactly looking to be more like them nor do I find their perception of us of any meaningful consequence. Idiots are idiots because they don’t think straight and if idiots think poorly of us, it is likely a compliment.

   3) When I lived on the East Coast, I got used to saying to those who thought we were hillbillies, “we are going to have to agree to disagree.” I have no problem continuing to say it. I’m proud of the values of South Dakota and I’m not going to change because they think we ought.

10. I think it’s a good thing . We do not need their policies and values imported to S.D.

    1. Agreed! We just want their tax dollars to pay for the other half what we can’t afford.

       1. I pay taxes and I do not appreciate the cultural Neo-Marxists using the government (primarily education) to push their cultural Neo-Marxist worldview down our throats, and worse yet the throats of our children and grand children. And when they don’t get their way, they resort to bullying. They expect and demand that I accept their lifestyle, while they use degenerative labels to describe my worldview belief system. Those hate mongers at Dakota Fake Press are the intolerant bigots, and they are out to destroy South Dakota’s traditions and culture. We certainly don’t want them taking over South Dakota’s government the way their ilk took over California’s.

          1. Mr. Sibby, in your dreams at night are you plagued by short-armed men riding a hand car down the tracks of your mind as neon signs placed at intervals flash in a disturbingly unpredictable pattern “Neo-” “Neo-” “Neo-“?

11. What ever reputation is being put upon SD, I hope it reflects our dislike of progressive Libs moving into states and destroying them. Oldguy is also correct, California’s unfunded liabilities towards bonds, loans, future health care, and pensions have their debt pushing over 1 trillion dollars. Just because the LA Times reported the debt was paid off; which was actually the state paying off a 2004 deficit, the progressive media runs with it. As far as surplus, even with California’s economy at record growth, they spend twice as much as they grow. Keep reading the propaganda and your head is likely to implode.

    1. Have you seen what they have done to Colorado’s front range?
       Purple Mountain Majesty now being slowly leveled, Ghost town being reopened and renamed to something less offensive.
       Amber waves of grain being replaced by condos complete with walking areas and safe spaces.
       Liberals trying to remake perfection in their own image.

       Truly sad

12. Let me guess, the South Dakota Republican response to this will be to resurrect the Janklow “California Option,” right?……. Hahahahahaha

13. South Dakota’s “hard left” is not the answer since they are as bad as what they claim to be against.

14. If you do happen to travel to California just make Damn sure you don’t steal any Moonbeam Brown posters.

    1. I see what you did there.

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