The State Chamber of Commerce had their annual meeting today, and a reader in attendance was kind enough for forward me a snapshots of the big political contests in their unscientific plebiscite among attendees.
No specific information as to how many were in attendance, but Dusty Johnson won the congressional contest, and Marty Jackley won the Gubernatorial poll among those voting.
And the campaign rolls on!
UPDATE:Â My source did provide me a picture of the crowd:
Surprising to see Noem so weak among this crowd.
I would expect Jackley to do very well, it’s his home town. I have not decided for whom I will vote, but believe it will be close. Unless something major happens.
Like numerous hours of commercials reminding people about corruption and scandals and examples of poor judgment
I’m surprised Ms. Hubbel scored no votes.
Why waste their time?
Noem deservedly got crushed.
Jackley is just a better candidate.
Go Dusty!
and Tapio is tied with Hubbel and LaFleur….I mean the Dems cobbled together a few votes…
The only poll that counts is on election day.
Didn’t the polls say Hillary would be the next president, in a landslide?
Why would a poll from the Chamber show Tapio has potential? His proposed bills would stop money flowing into companies that employ refugees for cheap labor, the Chamber is not happy about that. In fact, someone from the SF Chamber testified against SB200. I wonder if the Chamber was a reason why the Huron Police Chief was fired for testifying about illegals working for Huron businesses?
Keep pulling that curtain back, Tapio.
Cheap labor? Slave Labor? What are they getting paid? What should they be getting paid?
Question still not answered.
The Huron Mayor that got rid of Chief of Police Doug Schmitt is now the head of Huron Development Corporation. They all work together.
Kristi Noem: Bringing Washington DC-Style Government to Pierre
We can’t afford deficits here like the ones she’s been voting for in DC.
The people happy with status quo voted for establishment status quo. It’s a bit like polling Wall Street and declaring victory. This should give regular people a good idea of which candidates the state power structure is most comfortable with. No surprise…
Cory Heidelberger also supports Dusty and hates Tapio. Amazing how many times Cory and the South Dakota Chamber are on the same page. Thesis: Big Government begets Crony Capitalism.
Steve you really need to get back on Dakota Free Press and add to their dialog. It is not Free Press and is false advertising until you and others who have been banned are back posting there.
So, you don’t want Sibson to be posting here. Are you against free speech? He just made a statement, didn’t call anyone a name, didn’t curse anyone, but you would want him silenced. I hope you are not a member of Antifa who shout everyone down and use violence against those they dislike, just like the Nazi did.
You overreacted to what I posted. It’s ok and can be upsetting but let me help calm you down by clarifying. Steve should be free to post over at Dakota Free Press also. There no need to have a meltdown and get all defensive. 🙂
I wasn’t having a meltdown, thought you were telling Sibson to go back to the other blog, and I inferred that you wanted him to quit blogging here, so many people do state that. My mistake.
Got 2 groups in SD the Democrat/Republican establishment and the Conservative/Independent grassroots. Tapio and Hubbel are the latter.
40-35 Noem in a poll of voters
60-23 Jackley among Chambers of Commerce
This settles it. I’m voting Noem and Neil Tapio. The rest are paid servants of the Emperor of Pierre.
That is an interesting way of looking at it.
Anyone who watched the hearings on SB 200 knows state chamber of commerce is terrified that Tapio wants to end the flow of federally subsidized labor to big manufacturing in South Dakota. Those jobs should go to South Dakotans who will pay taxes on a living wage, not to imported slaves who get every welfare entitlement on the books.
So this is probably the 4th time I have asked this question. What are these import slaves getting paid? Are they working at gun point? What should they be getting paid? What should these jobs be paying? Do you feel it should be gasp! Unionized here in South Dakota?
Pay Amour wages, then you wouldn’t need to put the burden on the taxpayers.
Still not answering the question. Talking about 2018. Is Lora a Republican for Unions and dismantling Right to Work laws in South Dakota? That would be a switch for the Republican Party.
I would rather have her answer the question. So Pat, will you let her answer?
Otherwise it is just a total waste of time to keep reading about immigrants working for Slave Wages yet these people who whine about it and demonize these people that come to America for a better life cannot answer what slave wages are and what they should be paying for specific jobs. Whining and complaining generalities don’t help.
Specifically, I heard opponent testimony that argued these people are way ahead by working at $8.25 per hour. Other testimony argued that by the time you add welfare benefits, they are making a much larger amount. My memory says somewhere around $30 per hour.
I would argue that the wages paid would be a lot higher if government subsides to both the low wage earner and business owners were removed. Not sure if it would get to $30 per hour.
Let me know when you find a whole bunch of South Dakotans that are looking for, or really want to work. There are thousands of unfilled jobs in South Dakota right now, why aren’t they applying for those?
It’s nice to see the Conservatives speaking out.
Steve,
Just the other day, you said that nobody is wrong all the time or right all the time.
Plus, and most important, two people can reach the same position despite having a different rationale or a different values set.
In short, your statement (which I know you know) is a series of logic fallacies. Unlike many who reach the same position as you, you are pretty good with regard being logical and conforming to standards of communication, rhetoric, and dialogue.
And, when you do it, it diminishes the power of your thesis of “Big Government begets Crony Capitalism” which is a thesis with which I agree.
Troy, presenting that thesis at Dakota Free Press is what got me banned. Cory called it my hobbyhorse. That way he got away with not dealing with it.
Troy, it all about the money.
Of course the Chamber and Development corporations are going to do what they are told to do by the executive branch because look who subsidizes them. Figure it out.
Tara I have been a volunteer for a local Chamber of Commerce. It is mostly volunteers. I read this stuff and it is like where in the world are they getting these ideas from?
I am not talking about volunteers or members. The paid executives support common core, immigration, refugees, low wages and the Governor’s office of Economical Development. Remember the Manpower fiasco? The members and volunteers are not the problem.
Steve,
Doesn’t surprise me. Cory is not as smart as he thinks he and his self-righteousness is his attempt to hide what is very dark on the inside.
But, just because it got you banned there doesn’t mean you have to become illogical here. 🙂
Troy, the common ground between Cory and the Chamber on this issue is money. Cheap labor for business, and Cory’s wife makes money as a Lutheran pastor. LSS is the VOLAG for South Dakota that is implementing the federal refugee resettlement program. They received $3 million from the feds in FY2017. I also used the Open Money function of South Dakota’s finance department and learned that LSS got over $3 million for the State of South Dakota for various reasons…of which I have yet to vet. There is the logical tie…money. I am putting together a comprehensive analysis of the SB200 Senate State Affairs committee hearing this weekend. Here is a preview: Lutherans and Catholics join with the Chamber crony capitalists to protect South Dakota’s Refugee Resettlement industry.
Steve, for as much as you contribute here, you should put your vast knowledge to a blog of your own.
He has his own blog SibbyonLine. You should read it.
You can Google sarcasm so I don’t have to explain it to you. I do believe Lora is fortunate to have a friend like you (No sarcasm).
She does have a lot of support. A lot of them are afraid to speak out for fear of getting bashed, put you people have been very kind to me. Thank you.
Steve, Cory’s wife as a Lutheran minister I highly doubt is cashing in on this supposed immigrant cash cow. She is probably making a decent living if even that which is probably going towards paying student loans and being the breadwinner for the family which I’d imagine is very modest.
Same with the Presentation Nuns. They are extremely frugal with very limited resources and devote their lives to God and service to others. Again this supposed cash cow for the Lutheran or Catholic church and their organizations I just don’t see it and knowing from the Catholic side they operate on extremely tight budgets that are mission focused. Otherwise this is just another imaginary conspiracy theory put out there where nothing exists.
Cory’s wife is making enough money to allow Cory to have the time to attack counter terrorism experts and Muslim converts who come to South Dakota for being racists, bigots, and Islamophobes in order to protect the Refugee Resettlement program. I have personally warned him about how that plays into the agenda of the Muslim Brotherhood and he has chosen to ignore the warnings.
But you are right about those at the bottom making just enough to get by. Just don’t ignore those at the top who are raking it in. I believe the Nuns seriously want to do the right thing, and they need to hear the truth in order to be saved from those who use deception to convince them to believe the lies. Same goes to most Muslims. Discounting those warnings as conspiracy theories is not helping.
LSS’ annual report from 2017 states they received ~$12 million in grants/public funds. All sources of revenue shows LLS at ~$21 million. The refugee resettlement program is pegged at 6% of their budget, which served 432 refugees. $1.2 million for 432 refugees gives us about $3000 per person to resettle. What would it cost you to set up in a new state with just the shirt on your back?
Steve,
Logic leaps your preview is taking:
1) You are asserting you know their heart and they have nefarious motive (greed) to have said what they say.
2) Payment of money is a corrupting influence. If you publicly praise your employer, should we automatically disregard your views because you get paid money or should we presume you are speaking from a position of superior knowledge.
3) I’m 100% sure Cory’s wife’s income or job is not directly or indirectly impacted on whether LSS exists or doesn’t, much less has a contract or not. Same with the nuns who testified.
4) Most importantly, you are distracted from discussing the merits of what they actually are promoting. This is your strength Steve. When you chase the rabbit holes of 1-3, you lose credibility.
Troy,
The conflict of interest is at the top. Nuns and employees are their useful tools. If you expose the other side of the so-called merits, then you are not a loyal crony and you then are marginalized and people are told that you lack credibility. That is how things work in Pierre. I know, I have been there, and I have experienced it first hand. Thanks for helping me make that point.