in response to the call by some legislators for a special session to create laws to prevent businesses from determining how they want to handle employees who refuse to vaccinate, COVID Governor Kristi Noem is responding to the issue by giving a big thumbs down to more government regulation:
In response to a comment request from The Federalist, Gov. Noem insisted “Conservatives should always be opposed to big government.” Her spokesman, Ian Fury, added: “Our system does not allow [the governor] to dictate that private businesses require or not require vaccinations of their employees – nor does she have the authority to shut them down.”
“Businesses that choose to require vaccinations should do so with full knowledge that their employees – and future workers – may have other choices elsewhere,” Fury said. “And for their part, workers at all levels should understand that during their careers they may face hard choices about whether the requirements of an employer are consistent with their own beliefs.”
Rep. Scott Odenbach, one of the bill’s co-sponsors, dismissed the argument that the vaccine passport ban amounted to government overreach. “My answer to the people arguing this is big government is, ‘you folks would think the Bill of Rights is big government then’,” he said. “There are thousands and thousands of freedom-loving people watching what’s unfolding with quiet desperation and wondering if anyone’s going to stand up for them, and we need to start doing that.”
And there you have it.
Wow. I think Governor Noem just lost her reelection bid.
False premise alert:
These are not vaccinations.
I don’t see anywhere in these quotes where she actually says no to calling a special session. All I see is Ian Fury making some bad arguments against banning mandates.
Governor Noem might win the primary handily.
But she doesn’t have much room to wiggle in the general election, and this is the type of issue that could resonate and re-resonate with voters.
As time goes on, as we see data percolate to the top regarding the efficacy of these experimental gene therapies as well as the associations between the UN, WHO, and Pfizer, it could be difficult to overcome.
Has anyone let Governor Noem see President Trump’s u-turn on the vaccinations?
“Not much room in the general election”? Please explain? Who is going to beat her? A democrat that is on the record supporting the policies that are ruining our country? People are now getting a taste of just that for our country. They will not vote for it in SD, not this time. Last election was best shot. Close only counts in horse shoes, grenades, slow dancing and body odor.
experimental gene therapy? it’s not a vaccination?
yes technically it’s not a vaccination since only inoculation with vaccinia is a vaccination.
But like other immunizations it induces an antibody response. After somebody with a properly functioning immune system receives the injection the immune system produces antibodies. That’s how they all work..
This just in! Extra! Extra!
The University of South Dakota requires students to cut-off their pinkie toe to attend classes.
Governor Noem’s response was, “if they don’t want to cut off their pinkie toe, they should attend another university.” *
* Sardonic alert
Right!
Good call Governor, besides the substantive point you make well, there’s a clear lack of understanding about what a special session is and how it works
The legislature is currently dissolved and has to hire staff to meet. It’s not a machine you flip a switch on or off.
A special session, in its condensed time frame, only works for consensus items. A new big government mandate won’t jump that bar
I agree this was a good call by the Governor.
I disagree with the idea that special sessions only work on consensus items.
Special sessions should be used for those items that require legislative action, and for some reason can’t wait until the next regular session. (non-meandered waters) All bills need to go through the entire process weather in a regular or special session.
Lee,
You are spot on. This is subject is not “special session-worthy” and is not of any critical nature. Granted, one could argue that it is. However, I do take a slight exception to your statement that the special session is merely a rubber stamp/consensus type activity. As you know, the upcoming special session for redistricting will have quite a few little quirks, twists and turns leaving many legislators disgruntled. These behind the scenes, behind closed door dealings prior to and during any legislative session, only weakens the democratic process while further angering voters. I get the need to work these things out prior to any session, since you only have so much time. But do it openly and transparently. No one likes to see how sausage is made (except maybe for legislative nerds like me or Pat). Yet, it is important to know what went into the final product as well as those things you threw away.
The simple solution is for businesses to proudly advertise on the marque that their employees are not vaccinated against any strain of the Covid virus. Come on in.
Do you think the vaccine prevents you from getting covid?
I feel sorry for you.
Odenbach and Hansen should go back to law school. The Bill of Rights protects you from the government. Nothing in the Bill of Rights prevents a private employer from imposing conditions on employment.
They’d have a better argument where the federal government is back-handedly requiring vaccines, as with nursing homes. But even then, the nursing home can choose not to participate in federal programs so that’s probably a loser too. Read South Dakota vs. Dole.
I’m with the Governor on this one. Businesses should be free to make decisions about how to run their business as they see fit. As consumers (or employees) we can also make decisions as we see fit. If an employee is being asked to do something they don’t agree with (like a requirement to be vaccinated), they can go elsewhere for gainful employment, especially in South Dakota. I have left jobs for precisely that reason.
Odenbach and Hansen are by definition Fascists (private ownership under government control).
They have no business getting between employers and employees. You don’t like your employer, go work someplace else. In this at-will state, if your employer doesn’t like the job you do, you can be fired. Fair for both parties and the government is neutral (in a capitalist country).
P.S. The argument “well the government requires this. . . . ” just means you are like those you oppose. How about be a real pro-liberty person and get the government out.
… I don’t know that I’d say that, as I certainly think highly of both. But, I disagree that freedom is best served by more government.
The most devious and nefarious are those who pass as good guys. This is fascism. Put a name on it and their proponents.
I am pleasantly surprised by this.
This is the most true conservative thing our governor has done in quite awhile. I’m very happy she sees that it is just another government mandate on a business.
There will be lawsuits against employers when an employee dies from the jab and the employers will lose.
There’s so much about this comment that warrants attention.
First, how many people have died from the covid vaccine? If you put that virtually non-existent number in to your first premise, people will be left wondering who would waste the time to raise the point .
Second, how many have lived because of the vaccine? If you put that large number in, we’ll… like I said above.
Thirdly, a fundamental requirement for that type of litigation is the element of causation, which would be very close to impossible to prove – absent a pretty immediate death (which hasn’t been happening, but this could be the first)
Finally, and here’s the real end to any such lawsuit, the individual has their , in America, God given right to take their skills and market them to a different employer. If they choose not to, and chose to assume the risk of the vaccine for the money they get, no case
The proliferation of socialist thought in these Republican circles is troubling. It’s like being at a Bernie Sanders rally I guess
BTW Lee,
I am not for mandating employer mandates. I am for letting them know they will be sued and lose.
You do know what Vaers is right Lee?
Now please tell me how many deaths it took to take away past vaccines?
Lee,
The information to your questions is out there.
This website is censoring my links to that info so you will have to look it up yourself.
Employer mandates to get an experimental “vaccine” reminds me of communism.
Ask a lawyer if the family of the dead employee will have standing to sue the employer that mandated an experimental vaccine.
Odenbach does not seem to know how the Bill of Rights works. It is a restraint on government. His idea is an imposition of government. I had high hopes for him. He and Hansen are turning into Haugaard 2.0 really fast.
Do you understand the Nuremberg code?
Pat,
What is your email or phone number so I can talk to you about deleting my posts to doctors?
Do your advertisers know you are doing this?
No special session is needed, plus special sessions are expensive!
This can wait till January for a full debate on the issue.