John Schnaible, the admin for the Brookings, SD FREEBEE/Giveaway site posted notice of a petition signing that he’s trying to get people to attend for the pot legalization petition, by claiming that “our farmers demand this. Help them with a helpful crop that helps you and the land.”
So, I couldn’t help myself, and I asked “What does this have to do with the efforts to legalize hemp cultivation? This is for the petition drive to legalize pot.”
Apparently, they didn’t like anyone correcting their false advertising trying to make it look like they’re trying to legalize hemp.
They expressly turned off my ability to comment until after the petition event tomorrow. And they may have also turned off anyone else commenting on their post as well. But it’s a good indication of the tactics that the people pushing medical pot legalization are using.
With November 4th only about 60 days away, they’ll say darn near anything. And if they find they can’t sell it with the truth, they’ll just make it up as they go along.
“our farmers demand this.” Really?
The pot pushers helped to destroy what was supposed to be South Dakota’s main opposition party.
When you inform pot pushers that state budgets will go in the red just so they can get legally stoned these pot pushers just don’t seem to care. They don’t care about other negative consequences the state or communities will deal with just as long as they get legal access to their drug. They will then claim it is not even a drug. It is just a plant.
Pot is not the problem, it’s the laws. The ant-pot laws are providing the prohibition industry with millions of dollars for the profit prison industrial complex. Big pharma wants to keep their market on addictive drugs. Plastics, oil, Bayer, feed the politicians. Money talks.
Tara you’re talking points are outdated and way off. Big Pharma is now invested in Big Marijuana. So is Big Tobacco.
Violent crime increased in Colorado and they are still targeting people of color. Teen use is up in states that legalized, Those states are a mess. I suppose we could have a Libertarian anarchy world with drugs and guns being a free for all.
https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/addiction/news/20190214/in-states-with-legal-medical-pot-teen-use-is-down#1
I know, facts are hard.
From the same article, page 2″
“Data from the National Survey on Drug Use and Health show that states that have legalized medical and recreational marijuana use have higher rates of reported use among teens aged 12 to 17 — way higher than the national average — and lower rates of teens reporting perceptions of risk or harm from the drug — way lower than the national average,” she said.
Also page 3 from same article;
“it truly defies logic to make the case that liberal marijuana laws help to dissuade young people from using the drug,” Richter said.
I know, reading complete articles is hard.
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-teens-marijuana-laws/legalizing-pot-tied-to-less-teen-marijuana-use-idUSKCN1U32HL
there are a whole bunch of these out there saying the exact same thing. also, the quote from page two (above) is talking about states that have legalized medical AND recreational. the study that the article is actually about focused on states where only medical was legalized. I know, reading comprehension is hard.
Nope! http://sammn.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/Association-Between-E-Cig-Use-and-Marijuana-Use-Among-Adolescents-and-Young-Adults.pdf
Maybe I missed it, now that I have a hard time reading entire articles and all, but was there any association in the study between states where marijuana was legal in any form and higher teen use of marijuana? The study, and article, was about the link between e-cigarettes and marijuana use among teens. So, by the logic i am guessing you’re using, we should ban e-cigarettes?
And yes, violent crime has risen in states where marijuana has been legalized. However, it has also increased in nearly every state as well. so theres really no argument there.
wrongo on both! hahah!
It’s the new common practice of petition circulators- if you can’t convince people to sign, then fool them into signing. It’s ridiculous and there should be some safeguards from these groups blatantly lying to voters to get signatures.
Someone should video these pot pushers and play stump the chump. Get them to feel comfortable and let the full stoner come out making all the crazy claims they do. It would expose what frauds they are.
Pot is not the problem, it’s the laws. The ant-pot laws are providing the prohibition industry with millions of dollars for the profit prison industrial complex. Big pharma wants to keep their market on addictive drugs. Plastics, oil, Bayer, feed the politicians. Money talks.
Is this even legal to flat out like about what this petition is for? Maybe let KELO Investigates (Angela Koeneche) and do a story on it.
Capturing some of the numerous lies by the pot pushers will make great commercials in a campaign if they get the signatures
exactly and they re-enforce the pothead perfectly. Dude! It’s just a plant. It is not even a drug! You are a safer drive stoned than sober!
cocaine comes from a plant …should we legalize that PLANT also?
NO ON DOPE
“And if they find they can’t sell it with the truth, they’ll just make it up as they go along.” Sorry Pat – but that line is comical and actually made me have coffee come out my nose. Even as a republican, I see that the Trump administration has done this a time or two (case in point – SharpieGate).
Lie about ballot measures to deceive people into signing petitions? Don’t think so. But keep on keeping on.
Well then Pat – your several pieces on voters informing themselves should carry the day, right? Do you know for a fact that farmers did not demand this? Or are you just assuming, since it doesnt fit your narrative, that the statement itself is false? Realistically, if this gets on the ballot and passes, the Noem administration would thereby be likely forced to regulate hemp – Kristi’s words – “it would legalize HEMP by default” – the converse argument to hers. I don’t see this as deceptive – if farmer’s aren’t demanding it, then sure its a lie. But I see it as if this measure passes, farmers would likely then have the ability to cultivate hemp by default.
What you are saying is ridiculous. I would bet money that most farmers would NOT want to take this path to be able to grow hemp. And to conflate the two different issues in an attempt to get signatures to legalize pot is outright lying. Typical of the strategies I observed at the pot booth at the fair.
Agree to disagree I guess. I tend to try to see both sides of an issue before rendering an opinion. I can see it from both sides on this. I disagree with what I said is “outright lying” – I think it is a plausible point. Being entrenched in one view point never leads to progress – doesn’t lead to meaningful conversations across the aisle.
Maybe you would FEEL better at some other forum. Corey is always looking for members.
smoking pot has always been one of the most popular subjects over at Cory’s blog. John Dale, Cory’s associate is a character.
Pat, you literally tried to deceive people on this petition by claiming a 3 plant minimum was required of users. That only applies to those who opt to grow. You are purposely being dense and leaving that bit out to deceive people. I’d sign my name but you would just remove this post like those you complain about.
and you are?
From the Attorney General’s Explanation, which is on the petition itself..
“Additionally, if a resident cardholder is allowed to grow marijuana plants the cardholder may possess a minimum of 3 plants, as well as marijuana and products made from those plants.”
http://dakotawarcollege.com/attorney-general-explanation-released-for-initiated-measure-to-legalize-medical-marijuana/
And if you’re one of the 3 or 4 people I’ve banned for being repeatedly abusive/posting bigoted trash/violating the rules despite multiple warnings, then yes I would.
There’s a big difference between may and shall. I would read this that if a cardholder does decide to grow their own, then they need to have a minimum of three plants. However, they are not obligated to grow their own. I do agree that this is a ridiculous part of the legislation they are proposing though. Makes absolutely no sense.
After Wrong Approach South Dakota fails another time. How many times now is that for WASD? How many times has South Dakota refused this garbage? Anyways Mentele and the others will finally get the hint and move to California and just be garden variety potheads.
It will eventually be legalized federally and SD won’t have a choice in the matter.
States rights. Had Illinois politicians not been paid $600,000 to legalize by the MJ industry the pot pushers would of come to a dead stop in 2019. Illinois is Illinois being a corrupt mess. If they thought they had problems before wait till the MJ industry gets going there. 10 states have now rejected legalization. The pot pushers are dragging this growing ball and chain with all the issues and negative news reports coming out of states that made this mistake and having a far more difficult time gaining any traction. All those claims turned out to be false.