Did you know that NASA faked the moon landing? Yep. I read it on the Internet, so it must be true.
Nevermind that such a conspiracy would have cost millions of dollars, and involved hundreds of people who have kept their silence for decades to pull it off?
A similar thing goes for a post to the internet this week by Ken Crow, a Tea Party organizer who spent a few weeks in South Dakota during the 2014 US Senate campaign.
If you don’t remember him, Crow was working with Jason Ravnsborg for a short period of time after his entrance into the US Senate contest, and contacted Lee Stranahan to join him in the state. Shortly thereafter, Jason parted ways with Crow & Stranahan. Crow left the state, but not before wrapping his arms around Stace Nelson, and Stranahan eventually found his way to become attached to Annette Bosworth. And the rest is history.
Fast forward to this week, and now Iowan Ken Crow is trying to enter back into South Dakota politics by weaving his own “NASA fake moon landing” grand conspiracy by claiming that in 2014 Attorney General Candidate Jason Ravnsborg was actually a plant to deny Stace Nelson the US Senate Nomination by none other than South Dakota GOP Chair Dan Lederman:
That was my answer. I ended with, ‘let me guess, you were supposed to run, take votes away from Stace Nelson (the strong conservative in the race), so Mike Rounds would win the primary.’ He only stared at me and would not answer. “I then said, the payoff is Attorney General isn’t it? Your friends and the party have promised you AG if you did this, didn’t they?”
And…
Dan Lederman is the head of the Republican Party for South Dakota and is manipulating the free will of the people by inserting bogus candidates into an election process.
And..
To make matters worse, Mr. Lederman is not even a legal voter in South Dakota. He is running a major political party, manipulating elections and the gentleman is not even legal to do so? Yes, you read correctly, he is actually a resident voter in Iowa and to make it worse my friends, the guy is a registered Democrat in Iowa.
The only way to indeed drain the swamp my South Dakota friends is to begin by not voting for the Status Quo. Stop voting for career politicians unless they have indeed been doing a good job. In the case of the South Dakota Attorney General, I am going to support John Fitzgerald with a campaign contribution.
So, for any this to be plausible, Jason Ravnsborg would have not actually been running for US Senate 4 years ago, but had a “secret plan” in place to be Attorney General in 2014.
Add to that State Senator Dan Lederman (at the time) would have also had to have been in on the “secret plan” knowing he was going to be South Dakota Republican Party Chairman in 4 year’s time, I’m assuming with the assistance of time travelers or the secret Republican illuminati.
Since time travel is probably out, if it was the secret GOP Illuminati knowing that Lederman was going to be chair in 4 years, Lederman would have also had to do all this in collusion with the Republican Chairman at the time, Craig Lawrence. (Former GOP Chair Pam Roberts who came after Craig must have been part of the evil cabal too.)
And let’s not forget, that despite all the years of serving as an elected Republican on the Union County Commission, in the State House, and in the State Senate, Lederman is in all actuality still a secret Iowa Democrat!
And to tie it up with a bow, all this secret time travel/illuminati/Iowa Democrat manipulation was originally a plot to deny Stace Nelson (who Lederman is involved in a current lawsuit against) the US Senate seat, and Ken Crow is stepping forward to expose all this.
Boom. There it is. My head hurts.
The problem with conspiracy theories, is that like this one, they turn out to be a lot of bullshit weaved together to tell a wild tale that doesn’t hold up in the light of day.
Now let me tell you about the aliens they have hidden in Area 51.
Talk about total garbage.
I liked Ravnsborg already and if this is the BS he has to endure it tells me he is ahead and they are worried. I have seen Stace Nelson attacking him often and Mary Fitzgerald liking it, that tells me those 2 are doing all they can to tear him down. All starting to fit as Stace is praising Lance first and Fitzgerald next. Reprehensible.
Jason keep above the fray don’t stoop to their level. We don’t like negative politics here!!
Ravnsborg has never talked about Lee Stranahan or called him out for lying about AG Jackley.
Why should he…that is much in the line of this BS….the campaign was long over when Strahan was working for Bosworth who was the one attacking Jackley……is Ravnsborg responsible for the actions of his ex-employees forever? More garbage.
Finally it all makes sense.
Why has Ravnsborg worked so hard , endless miles and nights if he was already “picked” by Rounds? and he should have even more money if the Rounds people are backing him. Total BS.
Just utter garbage, I figured when Ravsnborg came out with law enforcement supporting him and then the fundraising numbers were in his favor this type of stuff would happen….they would have to make stuff up to try and tear him down.
Anybody pushing or supporting this garbage not only will not get my support but will get my wrath!
The other 3 campaigns better not be endorsing this “hit piece” either.
Jason knows.
The Rounds people don’t have the money- Thune people have the money and could anoint any candidate they choose. Rounds is like the misfit in the delegation- it’s clear as day.
Only if the people let him. It’s the people’s decision, not Thune, Rounds, or Noem. They work for us and don’t forget that.
That whole tea-flavored kool-aid y’all drank a few years back apparently is still available – must be someone’s kept a bunch down in their bunker. This is what happens when you crawl into bed with the wrong sort, Republicans. Trust me, us Dems have a habit of shacking up with kooks as well – Michael Moore, for example… but Benghazi and Uranium One are still totally legit, right?
The moon landing is fake. The refection of the Earth being round is a dead give away. The Earth is flat now if we can just have our kids participate in public school sports………….
Are you talking about Jason?
The only flat earther here is you Tara.
What’s a flat earther?
WHY did the “virtuous Ken Crow” suddenly decide to write this absurd smear job THIS week?
I wonder…
The check cleared?
Free Chillicothe?
Oops chislic
Probably because he wants the people to know the facts.
The truth that it makes no sense?
What is he lying about?
It’s good citizen journalism.
BAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA…good journalism…I about choke…Tara when you tell whopper like that warn us!
The whole truth will come out.
More trash from Stace Nelson
So is it safe to assime Ken Crow has been hired by the Russell campaign?
…….or the Fitzgerald campaign…they seem to be the ones getting the endorsement and the “campaign contribution”….
John Fitzgerald needs to disavow this endorsement and send back any contribution he receives! and if he is behind it, he is done!
Why doesn’t Jason come out and defend himself? Press conference.
Speaking of conspiracy theorists…Hello Tara!!
Why should he this is utter garbage…I wouldn’t acknowledge it either..
Rhoden was a plant first; then Bosworth was a plant second and then Ravnsborg was a plant third….no one can run against 3rd place Stace, he is magnificent don’t you remember, oh wait, just ask him he’d love to tell you all about it…he was the one always pushing this theory with every candidate…they all stopped him from becoming a US Senator….
If Rhoden is Noem’s Lt Gov candidate just watch he will be a plant and that will be his payoff…..
How hard is it to come out and tell the truth. The voters obviously want to know. Remaining silent does not help matters.
Tara, we are covering so many bases here but did Obama have anything to do with this? If my neighbor’s car won’t start or something goes wrong in his life he thinks Obama was somehow to blame.
stay on topic. AG is a very important race. We want the BEST QUALIFIED candidate with the most experience.
Yeah and that’s Ravnsborg…end of story…
Leadership experience in stressful situations, CHECK, managed a lot of people CHECK, done prosecuting and defending CHECK, done federal law CHECK, worked on a US Supreme Court case CHECK, done civil law CHECK…active in the party CHECK, Supported by law enforcement CHECK, can raise money CHECK no Ethical issues CHECK
he seems to check all the boxes for me.
In my book the others don’t come close.
Well, I would have a lot of questions for him. I am very leery.
Three o’clock.. Koo koo… Koo koo… Koo koo…
Why would he bother to dignify such trash?
He can set the record straight. People who have nothing to hide hide nothing.
Rhoden, Bosworth and Ravnsborg all said they were not plants in 2014….old news..fake news
But how dare they run against the great Stace!
That is your dumbest idea yet.
Oh give Tara time I am sure she will have even dumber ideas…
Oh she already did. Thanks to too much coffee consumed on a late drive home I was up late last night on Staces facebook page and Tara informed me that she was present at a candidates’ debate out at Pine Ridge in 2014 and state chairman Dan Lederman was there and she witnessed him promising the AG spot to Ravnsborg.
Yup, Lederman travelled from 2018 to 2014, ended up in Pine Ridge, and told Jason “I’m going to be the state party chairman in 2014 and I will give you the AG nomination if you will continue in the race to sink Stace Nelson.”
And Tara was there, saw this whole thing, and she is willing to take a lie detector test.
Other witnesses, she says, were Lora Hubbel and some guy from Georgia.
Whatever they were smoking at that event it must have been some seriously good shit. White ranbits, Cheshire cats, and a hookah-smokin’ caterpillar were there, too.
Correction: in 2014 Lederman told Ravnsborg he would be the chairman in 2018
Just trying to follow all of this. Did Dan Lederman have a time machine and transport back or was he really the Chair behind the scene and Craig Lawrence was just a figurehead.
Is this the point where the real villain appears, twirls their mustache and says Mwa ha ha ha ha?
Pat just solved it…It is Lt Gov Mat Michaels…we all know he is the man with the mustache….he will be governor yet!!! and oh wait he is from Yankton too!!!
well there you have it everyone should go and ask Lederman who is going to win and save us all some time since he is from the future…
Hey Dan who is going to be Governor and going to Congress? 🙂
I should talk to Dan about my investments!
Anne you are telling half truths. You need to go back and read my comments.
Anne, you are fabricating again.
Say what you want Anne, but I will stick to the facts. I don’t believe you were at the forum in Kyle, were you Anne?
Telling the truth and being transparent with the people is a dumb idea…….OK.
Russians, Russians, Russians!
Buttery males!
Mixed Nuts salted or roasted?
Fritz is a good candidate, and you can’t always pick your supporters – but he needs to run from this guy – there’s not enough soap
We don’t want a chicken AG who is going to run from people.
yeah the only multiple Deployment Highly Decorated Combat Vet is a chicken…sure …
Sorry, he doesn’t have the experience. But thank you for your service Jason.
I think the 4 candidates running for AG are all good people. This kind of outsider Trash does not help.
But it’s ok to trash the other candidates? We know who the establishment’s boy is. It’s all about control. I don’t think the other guys will play that game.
Yes we do…. Fitzgerald with his 37 years of being a career politician the most experienced person to ever run before…how arrogant…I think our current Attorney General would take exception tot hat since he was actually in the office when he first ran for election…Marty was more experienced to me, a person actually doing the job…but I guess the Fitzgeralds are supporting Noem with their contributions so Marty probably already has an issue with him.
Or McGuigan…26 years in the same office, and what was it said here he has done like 8 cases or was it 10 someone said on here once…not eight TRIALS eight cases total of all variety…
There are so many statements made that are lies, it reads poorly and like the National Enquirer .
Lederman is a Democrat…all those Secretary of states were in on it also then, you know they never held Lederman accountable and checked his registration when he was elected all those times to the state legislature. Chris nelson, Jason Gant and Shantel Krebs were all in on it…..(for Tara: I am being sarcastic)
YOU’RE IN ON IT TOO! I’m willing to take four polygraph tests about it!
I am willing to take a lie detector test. Better yet I will testify under oath.
To what? That you’re a troll?
That I heard it in 2014.
Yes Tara, you told me (on Staces facebook post) that you heard it in 2014. And when I responded by asking when and where you heard Chairman Lederman promise Jason the AG nomination, you said it was at a Congresional and Gubernatorial Candidates debate at Pine Ridge, that Lora and some guy from Georgia were also there. And you would take a polygraph.
And I said you must have all been smoking some really good shit at that event.
I admit I made up the part about the white rabbits, Cheshire cat and hookah-smoking caterpillar.
Everybody knows that Lederman was not the chairman in 2014. The next question is: was he really at the event at Pine Ridge?
If Lederman has a time travel teleportation device would he sell or rent it? I have some past investments I’d like to re-arrange.
Just enjoying some popcorn and a cold beer reading all this.
The Olympics are better.
Bat Guano Crazy!
I can see why good people don’t run for office…Sad
Of course Dan Lederman knows who is going to win every election. He’s Jewish. We all know the Jews control everything. The banks, Hollywood and South Dakota elections.
According to Tara, Lederman was at Pine Ridge with “some guy from Georgia.”
Was the current US Ambassador to the Vatican with them, too?
The plot thickens!
No, I don’t believe Lederman was there, but Gary Johnson from Georgia was there. I really hope they do it again. Oglala Lakota College did a great job hosting it. No censorship.
Tara if Lederman wasn’t there how did you witness him promise the AG nomination to Ravnsborg?
I think you just failed your own lie detector test
Dan picked up Newt Gingrich during Newt’s 2012 presidential primary campaign using his “Lederman Time Machine” so they could both attend the 2014 event Tara is talking about.
Stace is spending too much time on the toilet.
The one common denominator we always tried finding when our Spring calves developed scours was what the source contamination was and where it came from. Once that was figured out and we got rid of either the wet muddy manure or moldy hay, minimal antibiotics almost always cleared up the problem. Sunshine actually is the best medicine and as what we find here in the slum of negative politics, bringing light to just exactly what the common denominator is in all this lying trash talk about Ravnsborg, once found and discarded the problem should go away.
Common denominator is Stacey Nelson.
No one knows more about SH*T and being in the SH*TTER than Stace Nelson…..
never seen a candidate attacked so much as Ravnsborg….he keeps proving them wrong, which I love…
Keep up the good work Jason! we are behind you!
I am still waiting for Jason to prove everybody wrong.
He’ll prove you wrong at the GOP convention.
I don’t think so.
Tara, I think you missed a comma
I DON’T THINK, SO….
Sorry, thanks for the correction.
Is it trash talk or is it truth talk? I prefer truth.
See Tara what I didn’t write but will now is how I also know that Bulls who beller and stamp the ground shaking eardrums and feet but can’t breed always get cut.
Charlie, you are talking AG, aka as Agriculture. This thread is about AG, aka Attorney General.
Tara I’m talking Bull with you and should be talking Cow. My bad sorry.
Ok, that made me laugh
Of course the moon landing was faked. It was filmed in Kenya. If you look closely at the reflection in the astronaut’s visor you can see President Obama being born.
What is Ms. Hubbel’s opinion on this? Mrs. Volesky, there are many like me waiting for her words. Can you share them?
I posted her comment but Pat won’t post it. What does that tell you?
Lora has blocked me so why would I offer her any more consideration? If she wants to advertise her faltering candidacy, she can buy an ad.
The only thing more entertaining than this right now is watching the Obama and Wellstone camps duking it out. Only in Minnesota would a civil war break out between supporters of a someone who will never hold office again and a dead guy.
I have never met Ken Crow, I didn’t seek his endorsement, I haven’t received any campaign contributions from him.
John (Great name by the way!)
I have a couple questions and I will even give my thoughts but I would like to hear yours.
Would you agree to disavow Ken Crow’s endorsement if he does give it to you?
( I believe you should)
Would you agree to return any campaign contributions you receive from Ken Crow?
(Again I believe you should)
Would you agree that Ravnsborg is qualified to be Attorney General?
(I believe both you and him are the only 2 qualified candidates, for different reasons, but still qualified)
Thank you for your responses. John
John, I think Fitz gave all the answers he should on this topic. Can’t swing at pitches inthe dirt.
Will be an interesting convention
So what does anybody have against Ken Crow?
John – Thanks for your comments.
Jason is being attacked because he is the front runner, and he is going to win. This attack is nonsensical. No one believes he was a plant by anyone. He worked too hard for anyone to say that with a straight face.
You might want to read Lora’s comment. Gosh I wish you folks would use your real names. Where’s Jason? Thanks Fritz for Manning-up. I like his transparency and straight forwardness.
Fitz that is.
Why are you saying he’s like Chelsea Manning?
Guys, keep it somewhat on topic.
Tara,
You have all made us dumber with your constant spewing of words on here. Please take a break for a couple years from posting. We would be all the more happier.
Didn’t know I had that much power over you George. lol
So if Stace supports Ken, Lance supports Stace, and Stace supports Lance then this doesn’t look good for Lance supporting these fanatics, lies, and craziness. Again, Lance is becoming more and more unelectable.
At this point I am trying to determine who is attacking the conservative movement in South Dakota the most: Dakota Free Press or Dakota War College?
Steve, how would you consider this an attack? If as conservatives and Republicans we are not seeking the truth, then what’s the alternative?
The Crow story was a ridiculous conspiracy ridden and impossible fabrication. Period.
It assumes that Jason knew he was going to run for AG in 4 years, and that Dan Lederman knew that he would be State Republican Party chair in 4 years, nevermind two other people were chair before him, and he ran against the second one in a strongly contested race.
The candidates for AG – all 4 good people – can run the race on their own merits. They don’t need some ridiculous horsesh*t story, that also tries to shift blame to one of them for Stace Nelson coming in 3rd in 2014. Stace did that all by his lonesome.
The pnly thing truthful
In the Crow story is that Ken Crow likes to run dirty campaigns. Apparently he has been hired by somebody who is running for AG. We know it’s neither Ravnsborg or Fitzgerald. We know Stace Nelson is involved. Its time to follow the money to see where this goes.
Can you give me an example Anne?
Considering how thorough Steve’s research is, I’d bet his comment encompasses more than just this post. I’ve often had the same thought. Attack Lora, attack Nelson, attack Citizen’s for Liberty and most recently attack Dennert for blocking you on his FB page…it’s his page, you have some sort of special pass to be allowed on every political figures’ page? Can’t just leave them alone, let them dig their own hole?
There’s plenty of “Republicans” that could be called out for their voting records, why not share the hate, PP? What’s behind the curtain? Follow the $$ Anne says. You claim Mentele is not really pro-life, but skip right over the R-legislators voting against bills protecting life. Instead of hating you should be helping, isn’t that what a recent post said…you’re willing to give advice? The #1 SD political blog is beginning to earn a reputation not worthy of Noem’s $ or Jackley’s $ it reflects negatively on them too, IMO.
KM,
When anointed ‘true’ Republicans Lora, Stace, et. al., attack other Republicans, I’m required to sit still when people bear false witness against their neighbor (one of the ten commandments)? Such as when Lora claims the Republican party is led by “gay men,” which was horrifically slanderous.. I shouldn’t challenge that?
When Drew Dennert, an elected official, claims I’m attacking someone by reporting a news story, and then not just refuses to answer, but blocks me when I simply ask him to explain what I said that he thought was an attack, I’m not allowed to note that?
Since I’ve only been doing this for 13 years now, please provide me your list of ‘acceptable’ stories, so I know what I’m allowed to write about.
KM
Lora has left the party to run against it as an Independent and to be the Constitution party chair ( not to mention the countless slanderous and insane statements that make the party and all its members look bad)
Stace ONLY attacks Republicans and tried to blackmail the party in 2014 into voting for him or he would support Gordon Howie in an Independent bid against the party…and even when he lost he supported Howie over GOP Nominee
Dennert flat out tried to destroy the party this week by letting Independents vote in the GOP primary….WTF
They claim to be victims after they are not loyal to the party…all Pat is doing is pointing out their lack of loyalty.
Great. My point is SDWC has made it very clear Lora and Nelson are not welcomed in the party because he says so. Dennert is not worthy because he blocked PP on FB or maybe he has no merit because of his age? Why keep hammering these people? It reflects poorly on him, not them. Why not post about other “Republicans” who are not “loyal to the party”? Certainly plenty to choose from. Look at the free speech bill, he doesn’t want to touch the Board of Regents…why?
Pat,
I appreciate your analysis. It is just that I have concluded that nobody is right 100% of the time, but that does not mean they are wrong 100% of the time. Seems that political adversaries will use what you did wrong to attack you even when you are right on something else that we happen to disagree on. And with people we support, blemishes are ignored. I do admit that I have done all of that, and still do, even though I am trying very hard to leave personalities out of my political discourse. Like I said, none of us is perfect.
I do appreciate the opportunity to be heard, so that leaves you at least one step above Heidelberger. So what I said earlier is only partially true, and perhaps one of those times I stepped too hard.
Steve, do you believe Lederman has mastered time travel or can he accurately predict the future? Has to be one or the other.
Do you really believe Lederman is not even eligible to vote in SD?
This conspiracy theory requires the cooperation of Chris Nelson, Jason Grant, Shantel Krebs, Craig Lawrence and Pam Roberts, the Freemasons, the Rothschilds, the Illuminati, the Jewish Mafia, and the Vatican.
And aliens. Don’t forget the aliens.
Anne,
Why are you creating a false conspiracy theory on me?
…..and to call Stace Nelson conservative is an absolute JOKE
All he does is attack Republicans, show me one place he has ever criticized a Democrat in SD…I haven’t seen it, no he does press conferences with them and stands with them for votes in the state senate.
I am by far not a RINO and am sick of him giving conservatives a bad name in this state.
HILARIOUS!!!!
and true!
Anonymous can be a Republican or can be a Democrat, who the heck knows. Those of us who put our names out there are held accountable. How do we hold anonymous chickens accountable? Especially since there is so many of you, or at least it appears that way.
So we can then be attacked with smears like this..no thanks
Thanks for proving my point.
Does there ever come a time we just say the obvious: These people are liars, mentally unbalanced, and should be treated as such?
I am sure when they sit alone in their figurative basement (talking to people who think just like them), conspiracies “make sense” but when you come out into the real world a sane person realizes it is nonsense. The liars (not only say things without regard to its truthfulness but also manipulate things to support their conspiracy) and crazy bath themselves in teh nonsense and don’t realize they smell like Bullcrap.
Hmmmmm? Lots of protests on a story from 2014, that nobody contested at the time.
This was always fake news and debunked back then. What are you talking about Anonymous???
Trump, for example. Practice what you preach, brother!
Anonymous 9:49: It was crazy in 2014 (plus factually inaccurate) and as told today it conflates facts today (Lederman’s leadership) into the past which makes it really crazy today.
Ike: Your continual assertion Trump is unbalanced doesn’t make it true. The same Dr. who gave Obama his clean bill of health gave Trump his (including mental health). In fact, your continual assertion of this gives evidence your Trump Derangement Syndrome may be getting to a critical level.
Even if he’s entirely cogent, you’re still okay with the lies? Huh.
Ike compared to the lies of Obama, they are small potatoes. His lie he had nothing to do with the investigation of Clinton is going to be the one that puts his “legacy” in its proper place. Much bigger than the “keep your doctor” lie.
More whataboutisms? Stop it. You’re better than the sunk cost fallacy you’ve sold yourself.
Ike, since you absolved Obama of very serious lies about significant policy which he knew to be untrue before he said them, I’m just not going allow you to equate what you call Trump’s lies.
The difference is that I will freely admit Obama sold us a bill of goods on parts of the ACA. I will also freely admit he stepped in poo on Syria/ISIS policy – which is about the only thing Trump has gotten correct. The fact remains: Obama may have told some whoppers but on balance is generally considered to have the nations best interests at heart, and yet you defend Trump who can barely string together a sentence without falsehoods and exagerations… but you believe he wouldn’t lie to you on the “big” things?
I seriously question your judgement of character and false morality. A lie is a lie and should be called out.
Ike: “on balance is generally considered to have the nations best interests at heart”
In other words, Obama justification is the ends justify the means and you are absolving him. That is the rationale of tyrants, murderers. His test was when ACA went to the Supreme Court. Since he said repeatedly the “penalty” wasn’t a tax, he should have made it clear they couldn’t argue it was a tax.
I am appalled and do not like Trump’s hyperbole which does on occasion become falsehoods. However, Obama’s are of proportions beyond what we have come to expect (and accept) from politicians. How I struggle with them is my burden. However, I will not accept any morality lecture from one who glosses over Obama’s whoppers which have lasting consequence. I’m glad ultimately Susan Rice’s bad judgment to CYA Obama’s involvement into the Department of Justice is the evidence that will ultimately lead to prosecution of Obama and/or the Clintons.
So far, Trump hasn’t said anything that is as serious as what I believe will be proven against Obama and the Clintons. And, ironically, it will all be because you guys yelled Russian collusion which will ultimately be a projection of what your guys ACTUALLY conscsiously did. Ironic.
LOL, okay. I can’t save you from yourself.
Russell should get out of this race. His censure by the Supreme Court should prove he is not able to perform the duties of Attorney General. He is not worthy of the office.
Agreed. I don’t trust Russell. He would use attorney general for his and his friends personal gains.