Democrats bringing legislation to demand facegear be worn in all retail stores across South Dakota. Sort of.

50 thoughts on “Democrats bringing legislation to demand facegear be worn in all retail stores across South Dakota. Sort of.”

1. It’s purely an act of respect to always wear a mask when in public. To not wear a mask is complete disrespect for others! It’s not a political issue, it is a life or death issue. We respect others, this medical family wear masks.

   1. My decision not to wear a mask isn’t an act of disrespect for others, and you disrespect me when you claim it is.

      1. You’re right, not wearing a mask is an act of selfishness and being self-centered, not outward malice. You don’t hate the people around you, you just consider the minor inconvenience of it to outweigh the public good.

         1. No. That is an opinion and one that not all people agree with. You should not state an opinion as a fact and make judgments on people you don’t even know. Some medical professionals say masks will not prevent getting the virus and the germs you breathe in wearing a mask may be more harmful than getting Covid. With a survival rate of 99.9%, it is not a matter of life or death for the majority of people. If you feel it protects you, then wear a mask but don’t demean others who feel that it’s healthier not to wear one.

   2. Judy,
      I hope your “medical” role doesn’t require literacy. The definition of respect is: “due regard for the feelings, wishes, rights, or traditions of others.” Note that it is “due regard” where the operative qualifier is “due” and not “unlimited” regard whereby the other is a slave to your “feelings, wishes, rights or traditions.”

      But, since as a matter of life and death seems in your eyes to justify slavery to others, I want you to be consistent and live by your standards. Would you please disclose who you are, where you work so I know not to ever allow you to provide me medical care? (its not really a request because your failure to answer makes you a hypocrite). I don’t think you of sufficient intelligence and demeanor to trust you with my health. Thank you for your “respect.”

      1. Judy gives you her opinion based on her family’s medical experience. She thinks mask wearing shows respect to others.

         OMG! Slavery!

         Then you include a wave of insults with your lecture on “respect”.

         1. if masks worked the health care workers wouldn’t need PAPRs.

            what masks actually do is reduce the viral load that lands on somebody else, who can then have a mild case of the virus and develop immunity. Or maybe not.
            since the younger you are when you catch it, the more likely you are to survive it, you might as well catch it before you get any older.

            The virus won’t go away until everybody has caught it.

   3. Well Judy for every study you have that claims masks work I can show you one with the opposite conclusion.

   4. Judy, if they work you wear one and I support that but, lets be REAL REAL honest. Masks don’t really work unless I have to sneeze or cough. If I am sick simply breathing out of my nose is not going to spread germs. Remember its this droplet the SUPPOSEDLY. Unless you have a skin tight seal on a mask those gaps in masks obviously let air in and out so your NOT doing anything but, making YOURSELF feel better. So No Thank you Judy, I will not wear one and I am not going to feel bad about and I am not disrespecting anyone. I would say I am respecting everyone because I am letting them CHOOSE how they want to live their life.

      NOW unless your are someone who is Pro-Life I would maybe entertain your argument but, since you like to force things on others my guess is your Pro-Choice and if so “my body my choice”.

2. The actual evidence for those willing to “follow the science” shows the masks do about as much to prevent the China flu as the WIN buttons in the 1970’s did to control inflation. We have already seen the comparisons of states with requirements and those without and find the difference to be none or more likely more infections in the locked down states. If you want to wear a mask, more power to you. In fact, continue wearing them in your cars while by yourself so we can laugh at you. Go ahead and keep your nose out so we can get our little chuckles. BTW, there was a study that showed 85% of people who catch corona virus report “always” or “often” wear masks. Go figure.

3. Should a dentist or a doctor have the right to refuse a mask as well? Why do they all wear them? Would you work in a Covid unit without one? You know… if they don’t really work.

   1. We wear them for very large microbials that can cause infections. Face coverings used by the public have no effect on the tiny little corona virus. Masks also help with keeping provider from breathing into your face with bad breath.

      1. “Face coverings used by the public have no effect on the tiny little corona virus.” ??

         Well, I choose to believe Fauci.

         1. You do realize Fauci was against masks before he was for them? Prior to last spring, the CDC for 70 years recommended no general mask use for viruses.

            1. That was rather early in the outbreak. Since he’s a scientist, he’s studied the research that has changed his mind.

               I can still find people who believe the earth is flat. Are you one of them?

               1. If the study I read is the most recent on the issue, a higher number of flat-earthers believe in masks than any other group.

               2. Science is acquired wisdom over time, as we test what works in the real world. Virus research has been ongoing for a couple hundred years, and since 1946 masks have been shown again and again to be next to worthless outside clinical settings.

                  Fauci is first and most a bureaucrat and a partisan. He’s never been a scientist. The politics of the moment changed his mind. There was no change in virus behavior nor the efficacy of masks to ward off a virus.

                  1. God bless Cliff Hadley.

                     1. Thank you. And He has, richly.

               3. Actually, if you read the statements he made, he claims he LIED about the effectiveness of masks because of a shortage. He is nothing more than a bureaucrat keeping his job. He will say anything as long as he does not get fired. So, he has admitted he has lied in the past. How do you know he is not lying this time? I believe his lips are still moving.

   2. elk, masks don’t really work; that’s why the staff in covid units wear PAPRs.

4. Elk,

   Give us the science that proves masks work.

   1. Ask the CDC. Or Mayo Clinic. You won’t believe me. Just who do you believe?

      1. I believe Fauci. At the start of the China flu in the US, our beloved Dr Fauci told us that masks do not help, remember that? But then he also said the China flu wouldn’t affect the US that much either, and he must be correct because he is the highest paid federal employee at $417,000 per year.

         I also believe the CDC, because they, along with Fauci, has said that the US would have huge surges at Thanksgiving, again at Christmas and the New Year because people were not staying home and were getting together with family. The only surges were in the mask required and lock down states. If you heard the news Wed night the entire US now sits at a low activity level of the pandemic.

         Also, remember when the CDC said that the drug hydroxychloroquine did not help fight the China virus and it was maybe unsafe to use. Now we know that doctors around the nation have had tremendous success in using it. Not surprising since in malaria ridden areas of southern Africa it has been used for decades, and the Covid cases there were extremely low

         Truthfully, I can’t believe anything that Fauci and the CDC tell us, because one cannot tell when it is actually fact or fiction.

         1. Here we go again… Dr. Fauci did not initially recommend masks because there was still little evidence that it would work with the general public, and they wanted to keep from running out of supplies.

            Now that we have a year’s worth of data supporting their use, you simply choose to believe the opposite.

            You expected Fauci to know everything before he had evidence of efficacy, while you can’t even acknowledge the truth after solid proof is presented.

            1. “You expected Fauci to know everything before he had evidence of efficacy, while you can’t even acknowledge the truth after solid proof is presented.”

               But yet you (Elk) along with the liberal/communist lefties with the help of the media have blasted President Trump from the very beginning. President Trump has no medical background and was expected to be an expert and know everything about the virus from the very beginning. On the other hand, Faucci has been in the medical field for several decades and can’t be faulted, according to you, for not having the evidence about the virus, despite the fact that his work has been in virology, with a concentration on HIV. President Trump was acting, and has acted, upon the advice of Fauci and company (CDC, NIH, US Surgeon General, etc) but yet all bad things concerning the coronavirus are Trumps fault.

               1. Well said, Steve. That’s exactly right!

            2. So now your are saying Dr. Fauci LIED. If he lied once how are we to know whether we can believe him the next time? Masks do very little to stop the spread of the China flu. It has been shown. If nothing else, look at the effects it had on the rate in ND vs SD when ND instituted masks and other containment efforts. They literally matched SD’s rates. Don’t believe the liars, believe the evidence.

      2. Mayo’s most recent study shows masks are 97 percent ineffective. As for the CDC, see my comment above.

         1. Link to study? The most recent I could find is outlined here:
            https://newsnetwork.mayoclinic.org/discussion/mayo-clinic-research-confirms-critical-role-of-masks-in-preventing-covid-19-infection/

            “We found objectively that masks are critically important for protecting yourself and the people around you,” says Dr. Callstrom. “If you’re wearing a mask, you’re protecting others. If they’re wearing masks, they’re protecting you.”

            And even if you’re not making stuff up or taking it completely out of context, if your daughter was going to sleep with some rando, would your rather the condom was 3% effective or 0% effective?

            1. See my response below at 12:20.

      3. So you don’t have the scientific data? This is the typical lame answer from elky-poo.

5. I’m not muslim. You can wear them if you want. I’m a free man.

6. Since the South Dakota Democratic Party become the party of drugs and creating more victims do they plan on having a hole in the mask so users can smoke a joint, blunt or pipe while wearing their mask?

   Smoking places users at higher risk of complication from COVID but factoring liberal logic.

7. Well Judy for every study you have that claims masks work I can show you one with the opposite conclusion.

   1. No you can’t, you may find a few fringe contrary opinions but the overwhelming majority of scientific community agrees on efficacy of masks. “The preponderance of evidence indicates that mask wearing reduces transmissibility per contact by reducing transmission of infected respiratory particles in both laboratory and clinical contexts. Public mask wearing is most effective at reducing spread of the virus when compliance is high.”
      https://www.pnas.org/content/118/4/e2014564118

      1. Studies have their place, but the best proof whether masks do the job is in the everyday world. And mask efficacy in the everyday world is dismal. Case spikes occur in the same latitudes at exactly the same times, then back off, again, at the very same times, whether there are mask mandates or not. Minnesota and Wisconsin with 90+ percent compliance had the same spikes as South Dakota with nearly 80 percent compliance.

         And please don’t tell us how masks “slow the spread.” While one study in Canada “suggests” masks slowed virus spread by up to 25 percent, there have been multiple other studies that show no correlation. Studies that can’t be repeated are worthless, like cold fusion.

         Finally, if masks work so swimmingly, why are advocates now pushing the ridiculous idea that we all need to wear two or three masks at a time? The only thing masks do well is keep us from breathing oxygen.

         1. “Studies have their place, but the best proof whether masks do the job is in the everyday world”

            LOL – “My anecdotes are as good as your science!”

            This is why we can’t have nice things.

            1. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/anecdote

               1. Fake media.

            2. Ike at 1:48… I’m not impressed with most science research these days because, to get funded, the labs decide what the result will be, then craft their experiments and tests to fit the foregone conclusion.

               Why do you give so much credit to people who have shown deserve little or none? The daily circus with raw numbers with zero context ginned up fear from the start.

               Also, the public health bodies are playing with those numbers. The WHO admitted this month — and the CDC agrees — that the COVID-19 tests were too sensitive and provided a high percentage of false and weak positives. I’ve seen estimates of as much as 80 percent were positives of people who had no symptoms and weren’t ill. Also, it’s come to light that the CDC changed the excess deaths formula to lower the base for last year, which will goose up overall deaths by the end of the season. Instead of 150,000 excess deaths in the U.S., the CDC will blare that there were 500,000. That, folks, is known as a lie. And you don’t have to be an expert to figure it out.

8. They are there worst enemy. Noem is probably vulnerable to SHS or Billie but not if these clowns keep it up.

9. Ike at 2:18… The same experiment showed that simply by being 6 feet apart, with no masks, the number of particles received was reduced by 97%. And even at 3 feet, that rate is 87 percent.

   In other words, the news reports reprinted the Mayo p.r. with zero skepticism.

   1. EDIT ADD: Just to add a real world note, in November is was reported that more than 900 Mayo workers were quarantined because they’d contracted the virus. Stupid people — none of them wore their masks!

10. Here is another reality.

    Daily Cases were last this low in the middle of August and are 10% of the peak in November.

    Daily Hospitalizations were last this low in the middle of September and are 25% of the November peak.

    Actual people in the hospital were last this low in middle of September and are 25% of the peak in mid Novebember. Since note, the experts told us if we didn’t lock down our state in May, we’d have 1,500 in the hospital in mid June. We never got to 40% of their scenario. What a bunch of maroons.

    Instead of a mask mandate, we should rationally be told we can’t go without a mask if we stayed home when sick and social distanced. But, of course, the CDC has said nothing that is rational so why start now.

11. Why hasn’t Ms. Taffy signed on to Reynold’s mask mandate yet?

12. Nursing homes have been locked down for over a year now and yet according to the CDC
    40% of all COVID deaths are Nursing Home residents. All nursing home employees are required to wear masks, so if masks work can someone explain this?

    1. Mr. Higgins, it’s your fault for not wearing a mask on Tuesdays and Fridays, and mine for not wearing one the rest of the week.

13. No. That is an opinion and one that not all people agree with. You should not state an opinion as a fact and make judgments on people you don’t even know. Some medical professionals say masks will not prevent getting the virus and the germs you breathe in wearing a mask may be more harmful than getting Covid. With a survival rate of 99.9%, it is not a matter of life or death for the majority of people. If you feel it protects you, then wear a mask but don’t demean others who feel that it’s healthier not to wear one.

14. I see people misleading (I don’t think they are doing so intentionally but just believing what they read and are told from who they think are legitimate sources) regarding Faucci and masks.

    1) He has admitted he said they weren’t needed because he wanted to make sure masks were available for those who most need them (medical workers, first responders, and the most vulnerable population).

    2) The assertion Faucci changed his mind because of new information and the science discovered during this pandemic. That could be true for a new person epidemiology but not for guy who it is entire life. The science and efficacy of masks is a known quantity and has been for decades.

    3) The use, recommendation, and mandate of the masks is not about new science or even any science. It is driven by the “experts” willingness to throw every mitigation strategy at Covid, from the most effective (quarantine and/or lockdown), the moderately effective (social distancing and hygiene) and the least effective (masks) without regard to efficacy, cost benefit, or consideration of unintended consequences (these experts “cancel” any discussion of unintended consequences including impact on mental health or impact on the achievement gap of poor children vs. affluent children).

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