The SDGOP Winter central committee meeting is approaching quickly in the coming minutes, and it’s already proving lively.
City police had to pop by after being called by the Sgt at Arms to reinforce getting out of the way by some goofy guy with a camera. A bunch of people who have no voting rights at the meeting are carrying signs in the back hall for Tom Brunner.
A little more lively than some of the GOP meetings I’ve been to, but I suspect things will settle down as we get down to the meat of things.
This needs to be postponed until all counties can elect their new leadership
They’ve had time since November. How long do they need? 6 months? A year?
Enough is enough.
If we want to allow less time for the counties to assemble themselves, we should write that into the laws/bylaws.
Until then, it is appropriate to wait until either the last day legally to have the election, or until all of the elections have occurred.
This kind of etiquette should not just be exercised in more certain times, and leadership that departs from this etiquette when the times get tough are part of the problem.
It’s solid advice.
Agreed…plus some county chairs are purposefully or had weather issues in having county ekections which are allowed till the end of the month
John Dale is correct, You do not change rules midstream, let alone just cause you do not like the result. This is why I hate political parties, they want to divide people.
The 689 Precincts voted for who they want to represent them, and the majority of the precinct committee people are fully representing the people in the precincts, the Republican Party establishment of career politicians, executives, big wigs simply do NOT like what the people support.
I think what we have here is a small faction of progressive districts led by Sioux Falls, Watertown, Rapid City, Pierre, Yankton, Mitchell, Huron, Aberdeen who are led by a liberalized population who seem to think they carry more weight than the other 25 Districts. That is what we have here, 10 of the 35 Districts are opposed to the majority of the population.
Broken down into Precincts – you get a more, stronger assessment of what the people truly believe in.
The Republican Party today, has become way to Liberal in nature.
What the party hates, is that 689 Precincts can organize enough to tell them to shut up and listen to us.
Precinct Committee Men and Women can hold meetings to discuss resolutions, initiatives, candidates outside the legislature easily, and they can organize very well, to repeal, replace legislative acts adopted by the legislature before June 30th very easily if ‘we’ are united, saying that ‘WE” DO NOT CONSENT to your rules.
The PARTY will never over rule the Precincts, NEVER.
Mr. Zitterich. Write shorter.
yes : we have been mortified by some of the things “the people” have supported: the impeachment of President Obama without cause, the institution of Slavery, and the Democrats’ slate of candidates for Governor, US Senator and US Representative. The way the precinct committee men and women vote on resolutions has been spectacularly embarrassing.
That is what they have gone to Republican conventions to support. The “elites” have not been trying to hold on to imaginary power, they have been trying to control the message which comes out of Republican conventions.
There is no “power” to be gained by assuming a leadership position in a county party, you just spend a lot of money, and you store a whole lot of stuff in your garage.
You suddenly realize that for what you are spending and storing, you could buy another car and have room to park it.
I’m so sick of the literal sedition and rebellion of the loonies.
They bitch and moan about leadership…
However, it’s noteworthy how few times, if at all, any of these folks show-up to help decorate a float, drive a vehicle in a parade, install large signs, host a small event, etc.
In the past, I’ve helped out on a lot of Lawrence County GOP projects.
The chasm between the words of the “rabble-rousers” and their overall level past volunteerism (and taking-on projects that require focused activity) is breathtaking.
I find most of them to be poseurs… they want to wrest power from those who have it, but clearly most have been unwilling to do any heavy lifting.
Further, a common criticism is that leadership is not “conservative enough.”
I can’t speak for the other counties, but I believe Mary Fitzgerald has a CFL rating of 83… the highest for Lawrence County.
This is all about unbridled jealousy, power grabs, and wanting to stir the pot for rebellion’s sake alone.
I loathe it and the folks behind it.
Amen
I’m throwing a flag on this play, Sam.
We don’t have enough information about the people wanting simply to participate and finding themselves in some kind of perverted Rube Goldberg machine that prevents access to inject America first ideas, fairness, and morality into the process. I believe we can do a better job protecting the integrity of our political process and civic systems more easily from incompetence of inexperience than we can from unobserved, unchecked corruption. Changing the rules to protect power is deplorable in any context that denies the opportunity to learn and improve and casts our state in a bad light.
One of the leadership challenges that is not being met, in my opinion, and hasn’t for a very long time, is the opportunity to make mistakes safely and for the new people to learn. We have sacrificed the opportunity to identify shortcomings and opportunities for improvement (this is the aspect of any system that is most retarded by selfish leaders). As a result, we have a lot of in-fighting and a very thin bench should we need to make substitutions for the win.
We’re playing tight and puckered-up, and we need a change in leadership style (our leaders are also being denied the opportunity to grow through observation of others leading and employing new styles and tactics).
We actually need to play some offense, which means a more healthy middle class (see if you can make that bridge).
We do not have a healthy middle class, our schools are failing, the economy is tanking, human leadership for thousands of years has occurred in the pumped-up moral vacuum of human sacrifice and webs of lies by deep state secret society rubes with way more money than brains.
When I do the math, it all adds-up to needing more hands, eyes, and brains on the problem, and holding failed leadership accountable, a shocking 180 degree turn from what you’ve espoused.
This also seems a departure from the tone and timbre of things you’ve posted and said in the past.
Who are these people that are trying to take over our LCR?
Aren’t you trying to do that to some extent through your vociferous participation?
Most of the new faces I see are ol’ boys who are working hard, hands still dirty from the day, who are wondering why their kid wants to cut her lady parts off with strange new pharma, and why the main stream media and their local representatives are afraid to discuss election integrity.
I hope, Sam, that you don’t conflate my objections, observations, and informed opinions with some kind of verbal insurrection.
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John Dale, EXACTLY!!! THANK YOU!!!
John,
I don’t like being baited.
You are now off my radar.
The instant these rebels intentionally and premeditatedly bore “false witness” against me, YOU, Mr. Devout Christian, should have raised hell in my defense.
Instead you weasel worded around it and glossed over the grievous nature of the moral crime.
I don’t need instructions from you my friend…
If you do not know what John Dale said, that is on you. The American Government System is all trial and error, we learn from our mistakes, and live and die with the consequences. We from time to time hold public hearings to investigate, review, audit that process, while we hold public meetings outside the legislative bodies by means of County and Precinct Committees to meet to draft, and discuss resolutions, initiatives, and candidates. The PEOPLE can adopt laws with or without the legislature, GET used to it.
John Dale, I hold two positions in county leadership, Vice Chair and Treasurer, because our precinct committee men and women don’t show up for meetings or want to do any work.
The secretary and treasurer of each county can vote at conventions, but in many counties, officers have two jobs. Most often, it seems the secretary is also the treasurer. If all these people want to vote at a convention, maybe they should volunteer for one of the other jobs?
Scott Odenbach has the highest rating in Lawrence County, Sam. He’s a 94 I believe – highest in the entire legislature.
….and her American Conservative Union score is 84%. I’ve read a lot of complaints about the CFL scorecard. Theirs is based on how legislators vote on bills which go against CFL’s platform and our Constitution. Legislators’ scores are not ‘cherry-picked’, but based simply on their votes. While I don’t know either Mr. Wiik or Mr. Brunner personally, I would support Mr. Brunner because I have heard him speak at events and I believe he has the best interests of the Republican party at heart. The vote is taking place as I type and I am wondering if he’ll be rejected because he’s a “West River” representative.
Sam, couldn’t agree more. One recent example is 2x in 1 month loser, Haugaard. One of the ring leaders. He first challenged Noem who has a higher lifetime conservative voting record (77%) than he does by American Conservative Union. Next, he challenges Rhoden who also has a higher lifetime conservative voting record (by more than 10 points at 87.3%!) yet he ‘claims’ to be more conservative than either of them with a 76.5%. Yet none of the newbie precinct people bother to fact check him. Taffy falls in the same bucket. They lie and flap their lips loudly against other Republicans claiming to be ‘more’ conservative yet they’re less conservative than those they criticize. They might as well be Democrats.
Time to be like Democrats, change the riles when you lose
This is the big risk of the exclusionary strategy in SD politics. The exclusionary strategy only works with tighter information control, something that was intentionally baked-out of the core design of The Internet.
It’s funny in a dark sort of way, that the monster created by DARPA marionettes was also the source of the distribution of the true secret history of the management of the planet.
Long live the free and open Internet!
Sincerely,
John Dale, MS MIS
Still never replied to the critiques of 2000 Mules you lying coward
John Dale, what is exclusionary about any of this?
Maybe the state party should tally up the number of counties with open seats in their county organizations.
The officers are the County Chair, Vice Chair, (those two have to be of the opposite sex,) the secretary, the treasurer, the state committee man and the state committee woman. All 6 of them can vote at a state convention.
In those counties which have even got a party organization, those 6 positions are often held by less than 6 people. They are lucky if they can get 4 or 5 who are willing to do anything. The bylaws specifically allow a person be both treasurer and secretary, because there is no requirement to fill those offices with people of opposite sex. It would be NICE if the secretary and treasurer were of opposite sex, but not if they are the same person, LOL
In some counties, nobody fills any of those positions, there is no county chairman, no vice chair, etc, but they have lots of precinct committee men and women, who don’t want to be in those exec positions. They don’t want to do the work.
GET IT? They want to vote at a convention but they don’t want to form a county organization and be a member of the county exec board. That’s WORK!
A person who really wants to be involved can find out if somebody in their county is doing two jobs and ask him or her to give one up. Or if they live in a county that doesn’t even have a chairman they could ask their regional director to help them put an organization together.
Agreed…plus some county chairs are purposefully or had weather issues in having county ekections which are allowed till the end of the month
Ask the people carrying the Brunner signs to see the back side of their signs. They probably say, “Convention of States NOW…Gut the Constitution We Pretend to Love”
…and then ask them if their next stop is their own separate anti-Republican meeting at Dempsey’s in Watertown!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 You really need to a bit of studying and find out what a Convention of States is, how they work, and what has to happen after a Convention of States to change the Constitution.
I know it all very, very well. It will make sense to a simpleton, and then the learning begins.
why have the police been called?