Governor Kristi Noem sent out a text message fundraising appeal today with a strong message against those who would see South Dakota shut down and mandates imposed during the coronavirus pandemic.
“Kristi Noem: I don’t care how much pressure we get from the Left, our corrupt media, or public health ‘experts’ who call Republicans ‘super-spreaders’ but support ‘peaceful protesters’ who tear down statues and burn down our cities.”
It’s not a gentle message, but it plays to the Governor’s conservative base on issues that ever increasingly strike home for Republicans in the face of pandemic restrictions possibly coming back as the Sturgis Rally kicks off, and kids prepare to go back to school with some school districts requiring masks.
Governor Noem doesn’t like being called a super-spreader Republican.
But… it’s true… and a lot of people died that didn’t have to. She oversaw a death rate twice that of Nebraska because she encouraged mass events without precautions. That is a thousand extra South Dakota deaths and countless illnesses compared to our southern neighbor. She has the worst record in the entire region.
Once again, she would like to divert your attention to those riots that killed nobody here and very few nationwide. She will do anything but take responsibility for her own actions. No, we don’t have to like riots, but let’s be honest. Unless buildings matter more than human lives, she did a lot more damage than they did. The numbers tell the true story.
The media tends to be liberal but most of them are telling the truth about this issue. And she doesn’t like it.
the spike in cases here occurred November 14th
What “mass event” preceded that date?
Did the Governor hold a Halloween party? An Election Night party?
It’s all exciting to throw around accusations until somebody asks you for details
All she seems to do is campaigning
what “mass events” did she encourage in the two weeks leading up to November 14th,which was when the state had its peak number of cases?
There’s a nice graph you can google showing the trend. Did she throw a Halloween party?
Anonymous writes: “what “mass events” did she encourage in the two weeks leading up to November 14th,which was when the state had its peak number of cases?”
Two weeks? Nice try. It took a lot more than two weeks to go from 100 cases a day to over 1500. It takes two weeks before the first round of infections is verified. But when the Rally and fairs ended last year, there was a steep and steady rise to that peak. As predicted.
The new Delta variant is spreading faster this year but I believe it will still be more than a month after the events before we see numbers peak. Those that get Covid at the Rally will be mostly from out of state and the spreading in their communities will be harder to track, of course.
Anonymous says: “There’s a nice graph you can google showing the trend?”
Yes. Sure is. Go ahead and google it yourself.
From mid-August on, South Dakota’s numbers went up and up. For three months. We were the Covid king of the world.
Can we just live and stop saying how smart or awful each other are? I wish the Gov would encourage those unsure about getting vaccinated to get the shots like she and Trump did.
actually what all those states’ covid graphs show is spikes which occurred simultaneously. North Dakota also peaked on November 14th, Montana on November 19th, Wyoming November 23rd, Nebraska November 17th, Kansas November 22nd, Colorado November 21st, Minnesota November 18th, Iowa November 12th Wisconsin November 17th. Michigan is interesting: They peaked the first time on December 2nd and again on April 13th.
It didn’t matter what the governors of those states did,
Anonymous writes: “It didn’t matter what the governors of those states did.”
The fall surge started right here. South Dakota’s numbers are the worst in the region because Noem invited it here. Twice that of Nebraska which has a more dense population. Minnesota and Colorado held off our surge for two months.
You are attempting to confuse the issue and let her off the hook. Of course every state has a “peak”. You are trying to substitute peaks for results. We have the worst death rate in the region.
Noem brags about her policies making a difference. You should believe her.
Elk, intellectual integrity would require one to delve into the details of the “fall surge” to insure one is informed on the causes and linkages based on facts and science.
You not only refuse to inform yourself but you also continue to spout out what you want as it supports your Anti-Noem narrative.
Thus, you only prove yourself to be an intentional liar.
And everything I said is true. You are trying to confuse the issue.
You are a liar as you infer a link of the fall deaths direct to Governor Noem and her policies. It is an intentional deception making you an intentional liar. And you motivation is a deep seated personal agenda against Governor Noem.
You hate her so much you are willing to deceive others on issues as serious as life and death. That makes you the most despicable voice in the public square.
Who is the governor of South Dakota? Who sets the policies? Who is responsible for the outcomes? Care to take a stab at that, Troy?
Defending her policies isn’t easy. I understand. But that is the hand you’ve been dealt, Troy.
You need to calm down. And stop the ad hominem attacks. Not just on me, but everyone you disagree with, Troy.
I don’t “hate” anyone.
Several weeks back you were then blaming Governor Noem for all the ills in SD and blaming all the spikes in the surrounding states on the bike rally. You stated that all these states were within a 500 mile radius of SD. When it was pointed out that all these states were also within a 500 mile radius of large events in other cities (for example the BLM protests) which is just as plausible for the cause in the spikes, you had nothing to say and when a request for the hard data showing the link to the respective spikes with the bike rally was made…..well, you couldn’t provide it. So I ask again, where is the link to the study that shows the direct relationship to the bike rally and the spikes in these states?
There are studies that do exactly that. Look em up, Steve. Do your own homework for once.
Look this up too. SAVI time lapse animated video shows it all. Just how Noem invited this into the region over the fall months. Note how Minnesota held it off for a couple months. It’s so obvious that even you will see it.
Now, try answering this very… simple… question. Do we have the worst Covid death rate in the region? Do we or do we not, Steve?
And how is that even possible when we are literally SURROUNDED by states with lower death rates?
Give Governor Noem the credit she deserves.
Steve. Are you suggesting that a maskless party of 500,000 people in a small town for ten days reduced the Covid spread?
You want to think about that… and get back to me?
“Steve. Are you suggesting that a maskless party of 500,000 people in a small town for ten days reduced the Covid spread?”
–Never stated that. My point which you seem to ignore is that there may very well be other causes alone or in combination that is the basis for the spikes.
“There are studies that do exactly that. Look em up, Steve. Do your own homework for once.”
–YOU are the one making the claim that the rally caused the spikes. My point is there could very well be a possibility that there were other sources….so put up or shut up. Post the study that proves it. If it’s there it should be easy for you to provide evidence of YOUR proclamation. And do you not see the irony of telling me to look up studies to back up your stance while at the same time telling me to do my own homework?
What I see is that you refuse to answer a “very… simple… question”.
Several Sturgis studies exist (as you know) but you don’t even have to believe those studies. If you look at the SAVI time lapse, you will see with your own eyes where that fall wave began. Right here. And, if you look at actual results, Kristi Noem’s policies gave South Dakota the worst death rate in the region. Isn’t that true? Let’s start with that simple question, Steve.
Can you say “yes” or are you too much of a Party parrot?
What I see is someone who cant back up what they are spouting…..Here’s an even simpler request for you……provide the link to the study you are just so sure is out there….simple, all you have to do is cut and paste.
SAVI does not prove anything that you are saying…..again, let’s see the scientific tracking study documents.
Parrot
Steve H. writes about Covid cases: “(for example the BLM protests) which is just as plausible for the cause in the spikes”
OMG. That is so funny. Were the bulk of BLM protests in South Dakota?
You are a hoot.
Do you even remember what you spout out of that hole in the middle of your face? YOU stated in a previous related post several weeks ago, that all of the COVID spikes were within a 500 mile radius of Sturgis, SD. I stated that these areas that spiked were also within a 500 mile radius of large cities where other large gatherings were taking place, i.e. BLM protests. Who’s to say that the folks attending these protests didn’t bring COVID back home with them?
Troy is right….”you only prove yourself to be an intentional liar.”
Steve H… Glad you can take a minute away from blaming black people for everything, to address my concerns.
But don’t try to represent what I said a month ago. You can’t seem to grasp what I am saying today.
And this ladies and gentlemen is an example of a person who is obtuse and intellectually incapable.
Shaking my head and walking away from this dullard.
Before you go… remember that you have not answered the “very easy question”. I guess I’d take a hike too.
In other words I didn’t say there were BLM protests in SD
I just read the rest of this and the pathology which motivates Elk to be so fundamentally dishonest and despicable is just a sickness motivated by something clearly personal about Governor Noem. Did she not kiss your butt 20 years ago? Did she turn you down for a date 30 years ago? Whatever it is, you allow her to occupy too much space in your head and you have become demented. You are more than a sick liar. You are just sick.
You have no idea how predictable you are, Troy.
You call me a liar without showing the lies. You call me despicable because you can’t defend yourself. You invent weird personal stories like Kristi turning me down for a date. You try to psychologically project your “demented” social traits onto me.
Coming from the guy who called for “Fauci’s execution”, I will consider your latest insults to be yet another badge of honor.
P.S. Seriously dude… you need meds.
Elk,
By your logic of your unsupported assertion Noem is responsible for the fall surge, Governor Noem and her policies are responsible for the drought.
You have as much evidence to blame her and her policies for what you call the fall surge as you do she is responsible for the drought. Yet you completely repeat the same canard without ever offering evidence. I told you a long time ago the multiple causes can be found in the numbers and gave you some hints on how to look at the numbers. But, you prefer a lie that serves your Noem Derangement Syndrome instead of pursuing the truth.
What I do like about your above posts is:
First, you give a improper use of adhominem. You have had a chance for 9 months to examine your assertion (burden of proof is on the person making the assertion). I appreciate the opportunity to make a list of your intentional use of logic FALLACIES which by definition makes you a liar (which by definition refutes your reference to ad hominem).
Second, at various times your false assertion uses one, all or parts of these logic fallacies.
Argument from repetition
Ipse dixit
Proof by assertion
Cum hoc ergo prater hoc
Fallacy of a single cause
Furtive Fallacy
Finally, the harm in your intentional dishonesty is it is impossible to have discussions to pursue the truth. Liars like you just poison everything. If I knew who you are, I would tell you to your face your dishonesty is pathological and you should be trusted in nothing. Absolutely nothing.
Regarding Faucci, he keeps getting exposed for the snake oil salesman he is. Just this weekend, he singles out Sturgis while ignoring Obama’s party (located within miles of hospital bursting at the seams) or the big festival in Chicago (also considered a hot spot). I stand by my assertion his association with gain in function research at the Wuhan lab, his obfuscation of his involvement, his immediate and forceful denial the virus was from the lab, and his lies to Congress make him a traitor (protected the interests of China over that of the US even under oath to a legitimate branch of the government sworn to uphold the Constitution and protect the nation from its foes, domestic and foriegn) and a murderer (his politically driven policy directives and reckless disregard for the public health impact of his policies on matters like mental health have resulted in unnecessary death) for which he deserves the full force of the law brought down on him without mercy. The death penalty is a permitted sentence for traitors and murderers.
P.S. get help for your clear Noem Derangement Syndrome. It will help you have a better personal life. Only your loved ones should have this much space in your head.
That’s an awfully long post just to say that you don’t think Kristi Noem should be held accountable for her results. She literally said she was doing “everything wrong” according to health experts. Then you are outraged that someone points out the results of that foolish experiment.
And Troy, did you want to take a crack at the “very… simple… question”? Steve H. took a pass. Just wondering.
I reject the premise of your question. All human activity is an action which could spread the virus to others. And, I do not think Covid is the sole public health risk in our nation.
The health of our nation, our economy, our families and our individual mental health requires human activity which could spread this or other virus’ to others. I’m not so arrogant as to think what others need for their quality of life is inferior to what I need and I’m fully capable to protect myself from what I deem excessive risks.
I do think the Governor and all leaders should be held accountable. I reject liars like you who have an ax to grind and repeat lies hoping the repetition will make people percieve your lie as the truth.
I am combing through your latest comment to see if you answered it… nope.
It really is a “very… simple… question”. Feel free to answer it in Latin if it makes you feel more sophisticated.
Elk,
I reject the premise of the question as it is an obvious attempt to further your narrative by innuendo while you have yet to provide a shred of scientific evidence, a rational scientific hypothesis, etc. to support your assertion.
Once you are known as a liar, your dishonest games are in the light.
Here is that original question: “Now, try answering this very… simple… question. Do we have the worst Covid death rate in the region? Do we or do we not?”
You “reject the premise”? That is just stupid, Troy.
Asked and answered SEE COMMENT AT 2:31.
Uh huh
elk- extremely low knowledge
What an appropriate acronym.
I support Governor Noem’s stand on no vaccine passports, , no mandates and no shutdowns! The vaccines are not stopping the spread of the virus, in fact those receiving the vaccines are still very likely to have all the symptoms and possibly die. This virus has a 99+% of survival with or without the vaccine. The paper and homemade masks are worthless in containing the virus, but do cut down on the oxygen supply and increase the amount of carbon dioxide being breathed in. The earlier shutdowns destroyed many family owned businesses as well as put too many people on unemployment with no requirements to even look for a job. Many are still dependent on others for food, housings, etc. with rampant panhandling, robberies etc. The crime rates have increased dramatically during and since the “two week shutdown” We do not need or want this to be repeated.
Vaccines are effective at not only slowing the spread of the virus, but individuals who are vaccinated are much more likely to have a more mild version of the illness than their unvaccinated counterparts. Thanks for attending your daily “Dealing with misinformation on the DWC.”