Anyone want to sound off about the debate last night? I’m almost afraid to ask.
I found myself noping out of it part way through, and turning the channel. It didn’t instill a lot of hope for the future if this is the best we have to offer. It was just a lot of ..noise. It was about eating pets and deflecting or just outright ignoring many of the questions that were actually asked.
I don’t trust Kamala when it comes to her campaign promises. And I gave up trying to get a coherent point from Trump. Instead of the drubbing he gave Biden in the last one, he seemed all over the place.
What was your takeaway?
I’d say not much real good or bad as it pertains to Kamala. Trump definitely leaned more towards the bad. Repeating the lies about the pets being eaten just proves their gullible. When asked if he had a plan, “I have concepts of a plan” will go down in history as one of the dumbest debate responses of all time. And don’t forget all those illegal immigrants who are being put in prison and forced to become transgender. All Trump has is fear. Oh and tariffs are taxes. You aren’t putting 20% tariffs in place without raising prices on consumers. I don’t look forward to 75% of our ag products going unsold while farmers committ suicide at record rates again. His tariffs paired with the tax breaks caused much of the inflation we saw early in the Biden presidency. He added more debt and printed more money than Biden. Biden doubled down on the printing of cash but at least it went to infrastructure and not wealthy stock buyback. This is why manufacturing is booming today and our delegation get to have photo ops outside of Biden public works projects.
It must be nice to live in such a fantasy world as you do.
About as comprehensive of a rebuttal as I can expect from the gullible cultists who fear their shadows.
Trump and GOP got diced and sliced last night. Looks like 8 more years of Demos in the White House.
The USA will not survive Kumalla and her handlers. But thats what you want isn’t it.
You all said the same thing about Obama.
Obama in office is where it all began. Always scolding, bringing up racism and victim hood and apologizing to other countries as if we were always the evil culprit.
You…. you think Obama is in office?
Nevermind, misread. My bad.
I wonder why the ‘publicans haven’t won the popular vote 9 out of the last presidential elections CAUSE you no longer represent the people !!!
agree
We need to collectively flush Trump and MAGA down the toilet and rebuild in a positive way. It is unfortunate for those who fell for his lies that were also fueled by grifters pushing unfounded conspiracies such as election fraud that are wrecking havoc nationally and the state.
After the election Post-Trump with the help of fire departments we can put out those dumpsterfires out and bury them in toxic waste dumps.
How about his comments on Ashley Babbit being murdered by an “out of control police officer”?
She was forcing herself through a broken window of the last line of defense before the mob reached our elected officials and was killed. Any homeowner protecting their property would do the same if an invader was threatening harm and crawling through a window while breaking and entering.
Trump is a clown show.
She was an unarmed protestor in a group of protestors. The officer shot her because he could and waned to. There was no reason and he is guilty of murder–he just won’t be charged. Protesting t the capitol was wrong, burning down buildings in Portland was just fine.
Did Kyle Rittenhouse murder those two protestors because he wanted to? Burning down the gas station in Minnesota was wrong, but smearing feces on the nation’s capital and raising the flag of the enemy (confederacy) was fine, and a peaceful “protest”.
See, I can do it too……
ashli babbitt intentionally disobeyed the clear order of an armed authorized police office to halt. she did not halt but ignored the order.
marjorie taylor greene wants house hearings on why 3.5 years later we are still arresting and incarcerating j6 “patriots” at the rate of one per day. i’d like to know why it’s not 3 or 4 per day, and why mtg is still walking free, among others.
it has only been one year since i left the right-wing mind prison, and started facing the truth of all the horror trump has unleashed while “brandon” and “camel-toe” have been the best potus-vp team since roosevelt and taft.
harris was masterful and in-the-moment all evening long, and trump blew many chances to rise to her stature and represent his own party better. gop: you broke it, you bought it, you own it.
the mainstream media has done a good job this time keeping the fox-limbaugh fake reality from poisoning our election news, and it tickles me that the maga-verse saying trump won is holding at 35% or so.
You are such a dolt. Explain to us, if ashli babbett was such a threat why were two LE’s standing beside her relatively relaxed WITHOUT there firearms drawn? Why were the 5 LE’s dressed in tactical gear that were behind her just standing there watching. If she was such a threat why were 7 officers within an arms length of her not taking action? Let’s read your spin, aka BS.
your spin is the biggest bs here. she was trained military advancing on an enemy target, and in the heat of that moment the cop’s split second decision was a fair call for him to make, assessing her actions and affect.
Ashli Babbitt’s choices resulted in her own demise. She went down the rabbit hole of conspiracies along with aggressive actions and poor choices resulted in her tragic and violent death.
Huh. The same thing could be said of George Floyd.
OMG you two are so stupid. Ashley Babbit had been USAF Security Force trained to control access. She WAS NOT trained in combat assault. Even if she had been where in this video was she advancing in a military fashion. Point the time out where she is doing as you are lying, I mean claiming.
https://www.nbcnews.com/video/capitol-shooting-that-led-to-ashli-babbitt-s-death-captured-on-video-99180613572
At 0:05 you can clearly see two LE’s standing against the wall. At 0:07 you can see the LE’s have their sidearms hollered. Between 0:39 to 0:45 you can see 5E’s that had been behind her all dressed in tactical gear with firearms. Nowhere in this video can you point out where it looks like she is advancing as a trained soldier toward the enemy.
And Paul Blart shot Ashley Babbit in the direction of other LE’s who were right beside her.
Want to try your BS spin again…liberal moron?
1. everyone there was asking to be shot at
2. everyone there was asking to be shot at.
3. george floyd was murdered by police brutality. if he’d been at the front of a wave of violent destructive looters, his death wouldn’t have even made the news. the babbitt family’s shared pro-trump political delusion doomed her. you will never make her death some kind of martyrdom as you clearly are attempting to do. in that moment i back the cop.
Then why did 7…that’s 7 other armed officers who were within arms reach of her not react if the threat was so extreme?
Can you….or more likely will you answer that? Probably not as in EVERY TIME YOU ARE ASKED.
the clip is too short to provide any meaningful information at all. what a waste of time you bring us. lawbreakers who ignored a highly panicked armed police officer bought and owned whatever they triggered him to do. end of story.
It clearly shows all of the officers and how they are responding. You are willfully blind but I guess thats whalfway. ne with a severe case of dementia worship displays. Keep lying to yourself and others halfwit.
And it needs to be pointed out…once again the dimwitted enquirocrat can’t back up the BS that he vomits on to the keyboard…my isn’t that a surprise.
fafo
Ooooo…I so scared. Maybe you should follow your own advice tough guy.
i was referring to babbitt’s fafo. to quote don draper, i don’t think of you at all.
But yet felt need to respond…
to correct your false conclusion.
More likely to scratch that narcissistic itch you carry around.
The fact that Trump went into the Spin Room post debate says everything. All of the momentum is with Harris.
Don’t forget the abortions after birth….lol. He can’t be trusted on abortion and refused to answer if he would veto a nationwide abortion ban.
Ladies will decide this election and based on their registration numbers, it doesn’t look good for Trump.
She was an unarmed protestor in a group of protestors. The officer shot her because he could and waned to. There was no reason and he is guilty of murder–he just won’t be charged. Protesting t the capitol was wrong, burning down buildings in Portland was just fine.
She was an unarmed protestor in a group of protestors. The officer shot her because he could and wanted to. There was no reason and he is guilty of murder–he just won’t be charged. Protesting t the capitol was wrong, burning down buildings in Portland was just fine.
How about you stand on the opposite side of a wood and glass door while a mob tries to break it down. And yes, they were a mob. Why else would they have zip ties and physically assault police officers?
Well, they didn’t assault the police officers who were standing right there beside her…must not have been much of a threat.
Spin it any way you want, abortion is murder.
That’s a spin, a fertilized egg is not a life, therefore it is not murder.
If Trump loses his marbles during a debate with a Black woman, how can we expect him to fare in a showdown with foreign adversaries?
Questions he refused to answer:
1. Will you veto a national abortion ban, as already promised by JD Vance?
2. Did you recently admit that you lost the 2020 election?
3.Do you want Ukraine to win the war against the Russian invasion?
4. Do you have the plan to replace Obamacare that you have promised us for the past nine years?
None of these are hard questions, yet they are all critically important questions. Clear answers would have been extremely helpful for us voters as the election draws near.
Not to mention his ace in the hole surprise attack about the fully debunked Haitians eating pets in Ohio story. By the time he pulled that one out of his bag he appeared apoplectic, desperate and deranged. Do you really want to give him the nuclear codes again? Really??
At his insistence and to his own detriment, he was given more talk time than Harris during the debate. This morning on Fox News he is insulting Fox News Hosts. When you insult the news hosts of the channel that was forced to pay a $787.5 million settlement for spreading your election lies, you have become desperate indeed.
I certainly don’t expect y’all to vote for Harris, even though the list of “lifelong Republicans” that are going to do just that is already long and getting longer every day. Harris was composed, eloquent, concise, optimistic, and most important of all — presidential.
He is one of the most powerful men on earth and he is so infuriatingly petty and schoolchild with his insults. If he could shut his mouth and stop taking the bait, Harris might be forced into meaningful responses. But he cant because he is such an insecure manchild. He lost and it is his fault.
Vote Harris, contribute heavily to the GOP Senatorial Committee. 52 GOP senators stops the progressive left and dumps Loser in Chief 2.0 Don’t forget we’re in this mess because Trump cost us the Senate and turned the House into chaos. Senator Thune has shown us the way with the huge check he wrote this week.
Agree with everything you said except for the “Vote Harris”. But that doesn’t mean that you have to hold your nose and vote for the former President. Just leave it blank if you are in SD.
Let’s be real, he’s getting SD EC votes no matter what.
Harris doesn’t have good answers for the economy, immigration, or her many flip-flops. So she just changes the subject. She was well coached.
The moderators were clearly biased. They didn’t press Harris on any of her wild ideas, lack of policy proposals, refusal to talk to the press, or why she has flip-flopped on so many issues since her presidential run a few years ago.
Trump was undisciplined and unfortunately reminded people of the chaos he often brings. He is better on so many issues, but his narcissism gets in the way of having a real debate on those issues. He is easily baited into talking about crowd sizes and all the world leaders who like him, for instance.
The moderators only addressed blatant lies and that was all spewed by Trump. They even gave Trump more time and continually let him interrupt and speak. They were not biased at all except for allowing Trump’s tantrums to take over. Harris has more policy while Trump has “concepts”….haha. What wild ideas? Like deporting 11 million people or suggesting people are eating cats and dogs?
The Trump cult is going to be over after this election.
wild ideas = open borders, gun confiscation, gender surgery for illegal immigrants and prisoners, 70% tax rates
Or are those flip-flops? Or both…
The problem is she will do say and do whatever to get elected. in 2019, she showed was uber liberal. Now she wants us to believe she is moderate.
No one wants open borders. Democrats proposed legislation and Trump helped kill it. Trump wants a problem to campaign on while democrats propose solutions.
No one is taking your guns. Obama didn’t. Biden didn’t. And neither will Kamala and Tim who both own guns. Trump on the other hand, set the precedent when he told the atf to reclassify bump stocks as full auto after the las vegas shooting which opened the door for them to go after pistol braces now. I’d be more worried about Trump on this one.
Ah gender surgery for illegals, prisoners ,and on demand at school. You guys fear everything but the actual threats like school shooters who are sending kids home in body bags. Weirdos.
Tax rates? Let’s return them to what they were 50 years ago. Trump’s tariffs are going to cause more inflation and increases than anything Kamala is proposing. Quit simping for the ultra wealthy which you will never be.
You lie–Democrats obviously want open borders–if they did not they would be closed.
…they tried to pass a bill that was developed with Jim Lankford and would have done just that. Trump told them to kill it. This information is freely available to you.
wild ideas =
immigrants eating pets, “I saw it on TV”
“she wants illegal aliens in prison to get sex change operations”
“she hates Israel, and all the Arab nations” (so she hates both sides?)
Trump just repeated his twitter feed, and it is whacked for anyone who isn’t in his conspiracy filled bubble.
I watched the debate. I don’t think any minds have changed.
I found my mind wandering to what might be on the agendas at the next county commission and city council meetings.
Put those thoughts to rest, Everything will be ok. Does that work for you brother?
Mr. Dale, you need to get on the agendas. Please.
I thought it was awful. Awfully boring.
Polling shows the biggest issues for the public are immigration and the economy.
Not abortion, or climate change, or January 6, or the last election, but immigration and the economy.
Trump isnt focused on what matters to people, and Harris doesn’t want to talk about what matters, because the Biden administration has made both of the issues worse.
This. You nailed it.
Biden pulled us out of the Trump slide. Anyone who thinks trumps economic policy is good is not acknowledging reality. Trump spent more. Trump created more debt. Trump raised taxes on the middle class. Trump is the main reason why inflation started. Trump would cause economic hardship and inflation on day one and economists agree his plan is worse.
Immigration is only an issue to the racists who believe they are eating dogs and cats. Fear fear fear! It’s all they know. Crime is st an all time low and immigrants commit crimes at a far lower rate than Americans. Trump and his cultists just need to fear a boogeyman.
Immigration is a real concern for people in the lower income neighborhoods.
It is elitist to believe it is not a problem for others when you live in a gated community with a Homeowners’ Association and it doesnt affect you at all.
Immigrants are being dumped into other people’s neighborhoods, and they don’t like it. The rent goes up and the wages go down, as the new arrivals compete for housing and jobs.
I was curious about this issue of Haitian immigrants in Springfield so I started watching the video of a city council meeting there.
A woman who said she is 64 years old goes shopping at Walmart at night. And three Haitian immigrants deliberately blocked her passage through one of the aisles, trying to harass her. Another person told them about a woman who went to the welfare office because she really needed help and that office was overwhelmed by immigrants..
This is not the sort of thing which happens to wealthy people, so they don’t think it is happening to anybody.
These are the people the politicians should be listening to, the people who are competing with immigrants for housing, jobs, passage through the aisles at Walmart and access to the welfare office.
About 20 years ago I had a woman telling me how long she had to wait at the social security office in Sioux Falls because the line of people, “all foreigners,” waiting to get in for service was all the way out in the parking lot. The new arrivals are overwhelming the community services that the people in the lower economic strata depend on. The people who don’t use those services, or are not on a waiting list for low income housing, or trying to find entry-level work, or even going shopping in Walmart late at night think there’s no problem.
The first few minutes were pretty even. She seemed a little nervous. He stared straight ahead. Then she pulled out a nose ring, shoved it up his nostrils and led him around for eighty minutes.
And she was the adult in the room
I watched a few minutes then changed the channel to something a little more realistic — Sharknado 5: Global Swarming.
Seems like the majority of the posts by Anonymous this morning are coming from the same person. All a few minutes apart in a steady pattern pushing generally the same theme.
Another conspiracy? It is getting old. Time to put Trump and the John Birchers behind us. Look ahead my friend.
They are the sewage that has spilled out of the dakota septic tank because of the lack of maintenance on the part of CAH.
12 of the past 16 years have been under progressive liberal control. It’s hard to be both the incumbent and change candidate, that point was missed.
Well. Trump’s basic problem is that he is lazy. Same old, same old stuff. He makes deals. Our problems are with immigrants eating our pets, and will be solved when we build a high wall. I think he realized about half way through the debate that abortion, as a political issue, is a loser.
Harris is the most liberal Presidential Candidate since Eugene Debs. She may get to 50% plus 1 just because Trump can’t figure out what’s important to voters.
I had the CBS news on and my 10 year old was listening when they said after the debate last night that Taylor Swift came out and she was backing Kamala Harris. He said “it is over if the Swifties all vote for Kamala”’🤣😆
I mean, for a 10 year old he’s got good insight. If Swift is able to get enough registered voters energized and off the couch in say Texas, Harris could win there. Just looking at the numbers and remembering that most younger registered voters are those that don’t vote, it’s not a stretch.
https://apps.texastribune.org/features/2024/fraction-of-texans-vote-in-primaries/
“I don’t think many people are going to be influenced by a billionaire celebrity who I think is disconnected from the interests and problems of most Americans” – JD Vance
JD’s easily going to go down as a worse pick that Palin in ‘08.
At least Dan Quayle was likeable
Was JD referring to Taylor — or to his celebrity billionaire running mate?
Meanwhile….. his billionaire running mate is continuing his post-debate victory tour…… along with his newest personal advisor and travel companion, Laura Loomer:
“In the World of Boxing or U[ltimate] F[ighting] C[hampionship] when a Fighter gets beaten or knocked out, they get up and scream, ‘I DEMAND A REMATCH, I DEMAND A REMATCH!’” he wrote. “Well, it’s no different with a Debate. She was beaten badly last night. Every Poll has us WINNING, in one case, 92–8, so why would I do a Rematch?”
Wow. Just how gullible does he think his supporters are?
Based on idiocy on display here and elsewhere he came still afford to lower the bar further.
Yep…that bubble head has all the votes locked in for harris in the 9 to 17 year old demographic…oh wait, they can’t vote.
Taylor Swift is most popular amongst the 28-43 demographic bracket, as she’s a 34 year old artist with a 20-year career who’s been topping charts for more than 15 of them.
So, sure run your mouth about stuff you clearly know nothing about and pretend you’ve got it all figured out. Good luck pulling your head out of your rear end Nov. 6th.
Trump was at an all-you-can-eat buffet and only touched the salad bar.
“all-you-can-eat buffet”
Ha ha…accurate description of Kamal harris. Ask willie.
As opposed to screwing and paying off porn stars while cheating on 3 different wives? It’s comments like yours that will drive women to the polls. Keep helping the democrats.
I did hear that Ben and Jerry’s made a new flavor of ice cream named after kackling kamala. I guess it’s a flavor willie brown would recognize immediately.
That is a very racist response but then again not surprising. Laura Loomer, Vance, MTG and Trump on on fire with their racist tropes.
Where was race or even racist term even used?
Harris wore a smirk through the entire debate.
Harris through up batting practice fastballs down the middle and Trump only made contact with two.
Trump is lucky Harris didn’t say anything of substance to attract the middle to her.
Small net gain to Harris. No net loss to Trump. Made a close rac closer.
yesterday I wanted to find out what undecided and independent voters thought of it.
The pollsters were surprised to learn the independents were tracking with the republican viewers.
The economy and immigration were the issues that mattered, and the independents liked what Trump said.
One commentator I watched on youtube said “Haitians eating pets” was the number one google search after the debate, he pointed out the debate moderators can do all the fact-checking they want, but the public, no longer trusting anything they hear from the news media, will do their own fact-checking.
Another commentator said the NYPD released statistics of their own and “migrant crime” is now 70% of all crime in New York City. I didnt bother to fact check that one.
I did google “Haitians eating pets,” though, just to see what everybody else is seeing. Ok, the Haitians aren’t eating pets. But they are still annoying people by going to city parks and killing ducks, which is distressing to families with children.
Immigration and crime are a big issue in urban areas. The same urban areas that used to favor the Democrats might swing for Trump.
How we vote in South Dakota doesnt matter. Nobody ever won or lost the presidency by 3 electoral college votes. All we do here is grow the popcorn.
Trump’s meltdown was epic and predictable, and his amplifying racist tropes of an immigrant population (legally present BTW) to supercharge his base was sadly predictable as well.
Meanwhile, Governor Noem, who fly all the way to Philly (paid for by ______?) in order to bolster her MAGA mentor, offered to do a stopover in Springfield, Ohio to assist in clearing the pet population. She was overheard in one press gaggle saying “I’ve got the experience and I’m totally onboard with killing vicous household pets”.
My take away is that like the debate and most commentators here are giving Harris a pass on the blatant lies she said during the debate. She was not challenged once by the moderators for anything she said. While one of the challenges of DJT was completely false. I’m referring to Lindsey Davis saying no states allow late term abortion. That is totally false, there are at least 3, New York, Minnesota and Virginia.
Maybe it’s because Trump was being corrected so often because quite literally none of the things he said were true.
So you are OK with biased moderators during a presidential debate?? Now I understand why you have to use “Anonymous”
Let’s say you’re a plumber and you have to fix two leaking pipes. You look at each one, and one is just gushing water. The other has a few drips coming out. Which pipe will get more attention? Now apply that with what came out of Harris and Trump’s mouths.
Please focus on the issue at hand, you’re on the internet where names don’t matter but the ideas do. As if your name is Tim H.
Well if the issue at hand is leaking pipes, I’d do the intelligent thing and fix them both. Problem solved. With your analogy it’s pretty obvious what you would do.
I not a coward and have to hide behind fictitious names.
It’s so weird how people hate internet companies invading their privacy and then willingly give away their information. Weird fetish, Tim.
Take your time and see that Trump was indeed, the biggest liar on the stage.
https://www.factcheck.org/2024/09/factchecking-the-harris-trump-debate/
How dare you insult my obvious real name.
The words of a dfp floater.
How about turning off the water.
When DJT tells whopper after whopper, four instances where he was fact-checked was minimal given the number of lies he told and regularly tells, it was actually refreshing. He has deployed the “flood the zone with sh-t” for years and that is hard for anyone to deny.
The fact check was not on late term abortion. The fact check was on whether a child born can be killed. It’s called “infanticide” (also a homicide). Go back to the tape and listen.
It’s called gish galloping and the man has made it an artform.
whether Trump flubbed the debate is irrelevant to to urban voters who used to vote for Democrats but are now so fed up with immigrants being dumped in their cities, they are going to vote for him anyway.
Surely you’ve got mountains of proof or polls backing up these claims right?
Trump had 4 years to fix his #1 campaign promise the first time, immagration. What has he changed to make it work this time?
How long before the migrants are shipped to SD? We have way too many over run pet shelters and a crapload of coyotes.
I got it.
Instead of a bounty for tails, we pay people to eat pheasant predators; (skunk, coyote, raccoon, possum) and you get $10 per animal. As much as grudznick talks about food I bet even he couldn’t resist getting paid to eat.
We are F****d either way. Will we ever have normal candidates again?