From Twitter:
Next week, I will bring the SAVE America Act to the floor. Senate Democrats will be forced to defend their outrageous positions on these issues and explain to the American people why common sense and the Democrat Party have parted ways. pic.twitter.com/WrC6igztjN
— Leader John Thune (@LeaderJohnThune) March 12, 2026
Fake Vote
Pure Theater
Don’t be a sucker
Thune is doing nothing to ensure this passes. The majority leader has enormous power. If Thune wanted this to succeed, it would.
He knows it’s a bad bill solving a problem that doesn’t exist. It’s a state law issue and states can handle it. Federal overreach has no place here.
Well tell us all. What do you know about this bill that 88% of Americans want passed?
Just because everyone want something, doesn’t mean it’s Constitutional or needed. Civics 101 bub.
(AI Overview) Estimated Percentage Lacking Government Photo ID by Race
Black Americans: ~6.2% (approx. 1.86 million)
Hispanic Americans: ~6.1% (approx. 1.86 million)
Other/Native American/Alaskan: ~4.5%
White Americans: ~2.3%
Asian/Pacific Islander: ~1.6%
88 percent of your looney bin mates maybe lol, use real stats.
88%? Why not 99.5% if you are making up numbers? Looks like an extreme right MAGA posted 88% in a desperate attempt to insure minority rule.
It’ll be a real vote in every way. It may not pass. They can’t get the DHS funding done either.
You guys keep on pretending SAVE is a good bill, you just want to block the major reaming the GOP should get from voters this fall. That’s all this bill does, is screw up a fair election.
UPSHOT: Trump doesn’t want 2027 to be known for the biggest and fastest impeachment in US history, as bad as most Americans now want to see it happen.
In what possible ways would passing the SAVE Act “screw up a fair election”?
Please provide your reasoning for this assertion.
haven’t you heard? Gavin Newsom says it will disenfranchise married women whose birth certificates have a different last name, so they won’t be able to obtain voter IDs.
119th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 22
AN ACT
To amend the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 to require proof of United States citizenship to register an individual to vote in elections for Federal office, and for other purposes.
Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled,
SECTION 1. SHORT TITLE.
This Act may be cited as the “Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act” or the “SAVE Act”.
SEC. 2. ENSURING ONLY CITIZENS ARE REGISTERED TO VOTE IN ELECTIONS FOR FEDERAL OFFICE.
(a) Definition Of Documentary Proof Of United States Citizenship.—Section 3 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20502) is amended—
(1) by striking “As used” and inserting “(a) In General.—As used”; and
(2) by adding at the end the following:
“(b) Documentary Proof Of United States Citizenship.—As used in this Act, the term ‘documentary proof of United States citizenship’ means, with respect to an applicant for voter registration, any of the following:
“(1) A form of identification issued consistent with the requirements of the REAL ID Act of 2005 that indicates the applicant is a citizen of the United States.
“(2) A valid United States passport.
“(3) The applicant’s official United States military identification card, together with a United States military record of service showing that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(4) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government showing that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(5) A valid government-issued photo identification card issued by a Federal, State or Tribal government other than an identification described in paragraphs (1) through (4), but only if presented together with one or more of the following:
“(A) A certified birth certificate issued by a State, a unit of local government in a State, or a Tribal government which—
“(i) was issued by the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government in which the applicant was born;
“(ii) was filed with the office responsible for keeping vital records in the State;
“(iii) includes the full name, date of birth, and place of birth of the applicant;
“(iv) lists the full names of one or both of the parents of the applicant;
“(v) has the signature of an individual who is authorized to sign birth certificates on behalf of the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government in which the applicant was born;
“(vi) includes the date that the certificate was filed with the office responsible for keeping vital records in the State; and
“(vii) has the seal of the State, unit of local government, or Tribal government that issued the birth certificate.
“(B) An extract from a United States hospital Record of Birth created at the time of the applicant’s birth which indicates that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(C) A final adoption decree showing the applicant’s name and that the applicant’s place of birth was in the United States.
“(D) A Consular Report of Birth Abroad of a citizen of the United States or a certification of the applicant’s Report of Birth of a United States citizen issued by the Secretary of State.
“(E) A Naturalization Certificate or Certificate of Citizenship issued by the Secretary of Homeland Security or any other document or method of proof of United States citizenship issued by the Federal government pursuant to the Immigration and Nationality Act.
“(F) An American Indian Card issued by the Department of Homeland Security with the classification ‘KIC’.”.
(b) In General.—Section 4 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20503) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a), by striking “subsection (b)” and inserting “subsection (c)”;
(2) by redesignating subsection (b) as subsection (c); and
(3) by inserting after subsection (a) the following new subsection:
“(b) Requiring Applicants To Present Documentary Proof Of United States Citizenship.—Under any method of voter registration in a State, the State shall not accept and process an application to register to vote in an election for Federal office unless the applicant presents documentary proof of United States citizenship with the application.”.
(c) Registration With Application For Motor Vehicle Driver’s License.—Section 5 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20504) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a)(1), by striking “Each State motor vehicle driver’s license application” and inserting “Subject to the requirements under section 8(j), each State motor vehicle driver’s license application”;
(2) in subsection (c)(1), by striking “Each State shall include” and inserting “Subject to the requirements under section 8(j), each State shall include”;
(3) in subsection (c)(2)(B)—
(A) in clause (i), by striking “and” at the end;
(B) in clause (ii), by adding “and” at the end; and
(C) by adding at the end the following new clause:
“(iii) verify that the applicant is a citizen of the United States;”;
(4) in subsection (c)(2)(C)(i), by striking “(including citizenship)” and inserting “, including the requirement that the applicant provides documentary proof of United States citizenship”; and
(5) in subsection (c)(2)(D)(iii), by striking “; and” and inserting the following: “, other than as evidence in a criminal proceeding or immigration proceeding brought against an applicant who knowingly attempts to register to vote and knowingly makes a false declaration under penalty of perjury that the applicant meets the eligibility requirements to register to vote in an election for Federal office; and”.
(d) Requiring Documentary Proof Of United States Citizenship With National Mail Voter Registration Form.—Section 6 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20505) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a)(1)—
(A) by striking “Each State shall accept and use” and inserting “Subject to the requirements under section 8(j), each State shall accept and use”; and
(B) by striking “Federal Election Commission” and inserting “Election Assistance Commission”;
(2) in subsection (b), by adding at the end the following: “The chief State election official of a State shall take such steps as may be necessary to ensure that residents of the State are aware of the requirement to provide documentary proof of United States citizenship to register to vote in elections for Federal office in the State.”;
(3) in subsection (c)(1)—
(A) in subparagraph (A), by striking “and” at the end;
(B) in subparagraph (B) by striking the period at the end and inserting “; and”; and
(C) by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:
“(C) the person did not provide documentary proof of United States citizenship when registering to vote.”; and
(4) by adding at the end the following new subsection:
“(e) Ensuring Proof Of United States Citizenship.—
“(1) PRESENTING PROOF OF UNITED STATES CITIZENSHIP TO ELECTION OFFICIAL.—An applicant who submits the mail voter registration application form prescribed by the Election Assistance Commission pursuant to section 9(a)(2) or a form described in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a) shall not be registered to vote in an election for Federal office unless—
“(A) the applicant presents documentary proof of United States citizenship in person to the office of the appropriate election official not later than the deadline provided by State law for the receipt of a completed voter registration application for the election; or
“(B) in the case of a State which permits an individual to register to vote in an election for Federal office at a polling place on the day of the election and on any day when voting, including early voting, is permitted for the election, the applicant presents documentary proof of United States citizenship to the appropriate election official at the polling place not later than the date of the election.
“(2) NOTIFICATION OF REQUIREMENT.—Upon receiving an otherwise completed mail voter registration application form prescribed by the Election Assistance Commission pursuant to section 9(a)(2) or a form described in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a), the appropriate election official shall transmit a notice to the applicant of the requirement to present documentary proof of United States citizenship under this subsection, and shall include in the notice instructions to enable the applicant to meet the requirement.
“(3) ACCESSIBILITY.—Each State shall, in consultation with the Election Assistance Commission, ensure that reasonable accommodations are made to allow an individual with a disability who submits the mail voter registration application form prescribed by the Election Assistance Commission pursuant to section 9(a)(2) or a form described in paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a) to present documentary proof of United States citizenship to the appropriate election official.”.
(e) Requirements For Voter Registration Agencies.—Section 7 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20506) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a)—
(A) in paragraph (4)(A), by adding at the end the following new clause:
“(iv) Receipt of documentary proof of United States citizenship of each applicant to register to vote in elections for Federal office in the State.”; and
(B) in paragraph (6)—
(i) in subparagraph (A)(i)(I), by striking “(including citizenship)” and inserting “, including the requirement that the applicant provides documentary proof of United States citizenship”; and
(ii) by redesignating subparagraph (B) as subparagraph (C); and
(iii) by inserting after subparagraph (A) the following new subparagraph:
“(B) ask the applicant the question, ‘Are you a citizen of the United States?’ and if the applicant answers in the affirmative require documentary proof of United States citizenship prior to providing the form under subparagraph (C);”; and
(2) in subsection (c)(1), by inserting “who are citizens of the United States” after “for persons”.
(f) Requirements With Respect To Administration Of Voter Registration.—Section 8 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20507) is amended—
(1) in subsection (a)—
(A) by striking “In the administration of voter registration” and inserting “Subject to the requirements of subsection (j), in the administration of voter registration”; and
(B) in paragraph (3)—
(i) in subparagraph (B), by striking “or” at the end; and
(ii) by adding at the end the following new subparagraphs:
“(D) based on documentary proof or verified information that the registrant is not a United States citizen; or
“(E) the registration otherwise fails to comply with applicable State law;”;
(2) by redesignating subsection (j) as subsection (l); and
(3) by inserting after subsection (i) the following new subsections:
“(j) Ensuring Only Citizens Are Registered To Vote.—
“(1) IN GENERAL.—Notwithstanding any other provision of this Act, a State may not register an individual to vote in elections for Federal office held in the State unless, at the time the individual applies to register to vote, the individual provides documentary proof of United States citizenship.
“(2) ADDITIONAL PROCESSES IN CERTAIN CASES.—
“(A) PROCESS FOR THOSE WITHOUT DOCUMENTARY PROOF.—
“(i) IN GENERAL.—Subject to any relevant guidance adopted by the Election Assistance Commission, each State shall establish a process under which an applicant who cannot provide documentary proof of United States citizenship under paragraph (1) may, if the applicant signs an attestation under penalty of perjury that the applicant is a citizen of the United States and eligible to vote in elections for Federal office, submit such other evidence to the appropriate State or local official demonstrating that the applicant is a citizen of the United States and such official shall make a determination as to whether the applicant has sufficiently established United States citizenship for purposes of registering to vote in elections for Federal office in the State.
“(ii) AFFIDAVIT REQUIREMENT.—If a State or local official makes a determination under clause (i) that an applicant has sufficiently established United States citizenship for purposes of registering to vote in elections for Federal office in the State, such determination shall be accompanied by an affidavit developed under clause (iii) signed by the official swearing or affirming the applicant sufficiently established United States citizenship for purposes of registering to vote.
“(iii) DEVELOPMENT OF AFFIDAVIT BY THE ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION.—The Election Assistance Commission shall develop a uniform affidavit for use by State and local officials under clause (ii), which shall—
“(I) include an explanation of the minimum standards required for a State or local official to register an applicant who cannot provide documentary proof of United States citizenship to vote in elections for Federal office in the State; and
“(II) require the official to explain the basis for registering such applicant to vote in such elections.
“(B) PROCESS IN CASE OF CERTAIN DISCREPANCIES IN DOCUMENTATION.—Subject to any relevant guidance adopted by the Election Assistance Commission, each State shall establish a process under which an applicant can provide such additional documentation to the appropriate election official of the State as may be necessary to establish that the applicant is a citizen of the United States in the event of a discrepancy with respect to the applicant’s documentary proof of United States citizenship.
“(3) STATE REQUIREMENTS.—Each State shall take affirmative steps on an ongoing basis to ensure that only United States citizens are registered to vote under the provisions of this Act, which shall include the establishment of a program described in paragraph (4) not later than 30 days after the date of the enactment of this subsection.
“(4) PROGRAM DESCRIBED.—A State may meet the requirements of paragraph (3) by establishing a program under which the State identifies individuals who are not United States citizens using information supplied by one or more of the following sources:
“(A) The Department of Homeland Security through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (‘SAVE’) or otherwise.
“(B) The Social Security Administration through the Social Security Number Verification Service, or otherwise.
“(C) State agencies that supply State identification cards or driver’s licenses where the agency confirms the United States citizenship status of applicants.
“(D) Other sources, including databases, which provide confirmation of United States citizenship status.
“(5) AVAILABILITY OF INFORMATION.—
“(A) IN GENERAL.—At the request of a State election official (including a request related to a process established by a State under paragraph (2)(A) or (2)(B)), any head of a Federal department or agency possessing information relevant to determining the eligibility of an individual to vote in elections for Federal office shall, not later than 24 hours after receipt of such request, provide the official with such information as may be necessary to enable the official to verify that an applicant for voter registration in elections for Federal office held in the State or a registrant on the official list of eligible voters in elections for Federal office held in the State is a citizen of the United States, which shall include providing the official with such batched information as may be requested by the official.
“(B) USE OF SAVE SYSTEM.—The Secretary of Homeland Security may respond to a request received under paragraph (1) by using the system for the verification of immigration status under the applicable provisions of section 1137 of the Social Security Act (42 U.S.C. 1320b–7), as established pursuant to section 121(c) of the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 (Public Law 99–603).
“(C) SHARING OF INFORMATION.—The heads of Federal departments and agencies shall share information with each other with respect to an individual who is the subject of a request received under paragraph (A) in order to enable them to respond to the request.
“(D) INVESTIGATION FOR PURPOSES OF REMOVAL.—The Secretary of Homeland Security shall conduct an investigation to determine whether to initiate removal proceedings under section 239 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1229) if it is determined pursuant to subparagraph (A) or (B) that an alien (as such term is defined in section 101 of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1101)) is unlawfully registered to vote in elections for Federal office.
“(E) PROHIBITING FEES.—The head of a Federal department or agency may not charge a fee for responding to a State’s request under paragraph (A).
“(k) Removal Of Noncitizens From Registration Rolls.—A State shall remove an individual who is not a citizen of the United States from the official list of eligible voters for elections for Federal office held in the State at any time upon receipt of documentation or verified information that a registrant is not a United States citizen.”.
(g) Clarification Of Authority Of State To Remove Noncitizens From Official List Of Eligible Voters.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Section 8(a)(4) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20507(a)(4)) is amended—
(A) by striking “or” at the end of subparagraph (A);
(B) by adding “or” at the end of subparagraph (B); and
(C) by adding at the end the following new subparagraph:
“(C) documentary proof or verified information that the registrant is not a United States citizen;”.
(2) CONFORMING AMENDMENT.—Section 8(c)(2)(B)(i) of such Act (52 U.S.C. 20507(c)(2)(B)(i)) is amended by striking “(4)(A)” and inserting “(4)(A) or (C)”.
(h) Requirements With Respect To Federal Mail Voter Registration Form.—
(1) CONTENTS OF MAIL VOTER REGISTRATION FORM.—Section 9(b) of such Act (52 U.S.C. 20508(b)) is amended—
(A) in paragraph (2)(A), by striking “(including citizenship)” and inserting “(including an explanation of what is required to present documentary proof of United States citizenship)”;
(B) in paragraph (3), by striking “and” at the end;
(C) in paragraph (4), by striking the period at the end and inserting “; and”; and
(D) by adding at the end the following new paragraph:
“(5) shall include a section, for use only by a State or local election official, to record the type of document the applicant presented as documentary proof of United States citizenship, including the date of issuance, the date of expiration (if any), the office which issued the document, and any unique identification number associated with the document.”.
(2) INFORMATION ON MAIL VOTER REGISTRATION FORM.—Section 9(b)(4) of such Act (52 U.S.C. 20508(b)(4)) is amended—
(A) by redesignating clauses (i) through (iii) as subparagraphs (A) through (C), respectively; and
(B) in subparagraph (C) (as so redesignated and as amended by paragraph (1)(C)), by striking “; and” and inserting the following: “, other than as evidence in a criminal proceeding or immigration proceeding brought against an applicant who attempts to register to vote and makes a false declaration under penalty of perjury that the applicant meets the eligibility requirements to register to vote in an election for Federal office; and”.
(i) Private Right Of Action.—Section 11(b)(1) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20510(b)(1)) is amended by striking “a violation of this Act” and inserting “a violation of this Act, including the act of an election official who registers an applicant to vote in an election for Federal office who fails to present documentary proof of United States citizenship,”.
(j) Criminal Penalties.—Section 12(2) of such Act (52 U.S.C. 20511(2)) is amended—
(1) by striking “or” at the end of subparagraph (A);
(2) by redesignating subparagraph (B) as subparagraph (D); and
(3) by inserting after subparagraph (A) the following new subparagraphs:
“(B) in the case of an officer or employee of the executive branch, providing material assistance to a noncitizen in attempting to register to vote or vote in an election for Federal office;
“(C) registering an applicant to vote in an election for Federal office who fails to present documentary proof of United States citizenship; or”.
(k) Applicability Of Requirements To Certain States.—
(1) IN GENERAL.—Subsection (c) of section 4 of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20503), as redesignated by subsection (b), is amended by striking “This Act does not apply to a State” and inserting “Except with respect to the requirements under subsection (i) and (j) of section 8 in the case of a State described in paragraph (2), this Act does not apply to a State”.
(2) PERMITTING STATES TO ADOPT REQUIREMENTS AFTER ENACTMENT.—Section 4 of such Act (52 U.S.C. 20503) is amended by adding at the end the following new subsection:
“(d) Permitting States To Adopt Certain Requirements After Enactment.—Subsections (i) and (j) of section 8 shall not apply to a State described in subsection (c)(2) if the State, by law or regulation, adopts requirements which are identical to the requirements under such subsections not later than 60 days prior to the date of the first election for Federal office which is held in the State after the date of the enactment of the SAVE Act.”.
SEC. 3. ELECTION ASSISTANCE COMMISSION GUIDANCE.
Not later than 10 days after the date of the enactment of this Act, the Election Assistance Commission shall adopt and transmit to the chief State election official of each State guidance with respect to the implementation of the requirements under the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20501 et seq.), as amended by section 2.
SEC. 4. INAPPLICABILITY OF PAPERWORK REDUCTION ACT.
Subchapter I of chapter 35 of title 44 (commonly referred to as the “Paperwork Reduction Act”) shall not apply with respect to the development or modification of voter registration materials under the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20501 et seq.), as amended by section 2, including the development or modification of any voter registration application forms.
SEC. 5. DUTY OF SECRETARY OF HOMELAND SECURITY TO NOTIFY ELECTION OFFICIALS OF NATURALIZATION.
Upon receiving information that an individual has become a naturalized citizen of the United States, the Secretary of Homeland Security shall promptly provide notice of such information to the appropriate chief election official of the State in which such individual is domiciled.
SEC. 6. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION REGARDING PROVISIONAL BALLOTS.
Nothing in this Act or in any amendment made by this Act may be construed to supercede, restrict, or otherwise affect the ability of an individual to cast a provisional ballot in an election for Federal office or to have the ballot counted in the election if the individual is verified as a citizen of the United States pursuant to section 8(j) of the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (as added by section 2(f)).
SEC. 7. RULE OF CONSTRUCTION REGARDING EFFECT ON STATE EXEMPTIONS FROM OTHER FEDERAL LAWS.
Nothing in this Act or in any amendment made by this Act may be construed to affect the exemption of a State from any requirement of any Federal law other than the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 (52 U.S.C. 20501 et seq.).
SEC. 8. EFFECTIVE DATE.
This Act and the amendments made by this Act shall take effect on the date of the enactment of this Act, and shall apply with respect to applications for voter registration which are submitted on or after such date.
Passed the House of Representatives April 10, 2025.
Attest:
Clerk.
119th CONGRESS
1st Session
H. R. 22
AN ACT
To amend the National Voter Registration Act of 1993 to require proof of United States citizenship to register an individual to vote in elections for Federal office, and for other purposes.
I guess it depends on which of three bills the Senate passes – the original Save act, with onerous document requirements at the polls, the House amended Save act which removed some document requirements but requires states to submit all voter rolls to DHS, OR the Make Elections Great Again act, a substitute plan favored by the president that additionally bans all mail-in ballots.
How did we ever win the House, Senate & Presidency a year and a half ago without it?
And we’ve deported 3 million illegals since then.
Good bill but hardly more important than funding Homeland Security. Huge overreaction by the social media MAGAs.
Good explainer:
https://hotair.com/generalissimo/2026/03/12/can-we-talk-about-the-so-called-talking-filibuster-and-why-it-wont-save-the-save-act-n3812767
the thing about the Voter ID requirement is that it has prompted the Democrats to go full bore racist and misogynist INSANE.
It will disenfranchise all the married women who cannot obtain Social security cards, Driver’s licenses or passports after their names changed. Married women cannot work, drive or travel. Who knew???
Then EVERYBODY knows people of color cannot work, drive or travel, because they have no identification either. Especially if their mothers were not married, and nobody stepped up to “give the baby a name.” So they just have blank spaces on their birth certificates.
It says a lot about Democrats that they actually believe this crap.
Poll tests and poll taxes to voters after Emancipation weren’t overtly racist, they were racist in their effect on vote blocking. The racism and misogyny on a bill like this remain with the proponents.
A drivers license isn’t sufficient proof of citizenship under this bill. And any restriction on a right, must pass the strict-scrutiny test. And previously pointed out, it’s a de-facto poll tax, not de-jure. Which is still illegal. But legality never stops cavemen like you.
If you did not have a birth certificate issued when you were born, you couldn’t be enrolled in kindergarten, couldn’t play in Little League, or get a driver’s license as a teenager. If your parents couldn’t prove you were theirs, they could not get a social security number or claim you as a dependent on their taxes.
To believe that anybody could arrive at the age of 18 without a birth certificate is just beyond idiotic.
Immigrants who have been naturalized are also presented with certificates which verify that.
It is absolutely asinine to suggest that there are adults functioning in society without government-issued identification.
If such people ever existed, they would be regularly featured guests on MSNBC/MS NOW. In all the years they have been spouting their nonsense, they have never found one of these imaginary people to bring into their studio.
Speaking of spouting nonsense, where’s the cold-hard, beyond a reasonable doubt proof that there’s enough voter fraud going on to warrant the festering dung heap that is the SAVE Act?
The very fact that Democrats are so opposed to common sense voter identification laws makes it obvious.
So no, no proof.
Do I believe there are people on the left who reflexively oppose anything Trump does or anything connected to him? Absolutely!
In Presidential elections, votes often shift nationwide. ALL 50 states moved toward Democrats in 2020. And ALL 50 states moved back toward Republicans in 2024. These ridiculous “stolen election” claims are just sore loser complaints. Fantasies. And they repeatedly lost their challenges in court. About sixty times!
Now they know that they are likely to lose this November. The surveys show it. And every one of the most recent elections had Republicans losing ground. So they are trying to change the rules. They are even engaging in redistricting of congressional boundaries, right before the election.
Sore loser behavior… even before the election returns are tallied.
in 2016 people went crazy asserting that Trump had stolen the election. My own family is very proud of participating in an anti-election result protest in Boston after Trump was elected in 2016; I was embarrassed to see them protesting Democracy. Crazies showed up in Washington DC to protest at his first inauguration. More crazies showed up four years later to protest the certification of the votes..
What this means is that more and more people have lost faith in the integrity of our elections. it doesn’t matter what the truth is, the peaceful transfer of power will not take place if people do not trust the legitimacy of the results. If too many people do not believe in the validity of our election results, we will revert to a more primitive time when power was acquired through violence..
Whatever it takes to restore trust in the integrity of elections has to happen. Democracy cannot exist without it..
The current president still actively undermines confidence because he lost in 2020. What would you propose we do about that, Anne? Pass laws based on one man’s ego?
in this case, yes. In 2016 Clinton refused to concede for way too long and referred to Trump as illegitimate.
Come on, Anne. Of course, there may be hard feelings after an election, and minor challenges to fairness. But nothing like this has ever occurred. A president claiming the system is rigged for ten years, win or lose. With no evidence to back it up. He alone is responsible for the loss of confidence in elections, which all democracies depend on.
He challenged the results, but he lost and lost… and lost again… in court. That place where FACTS still matter.
Voters rarely cheat in elections because there are stiff penalties, and that type of effort has little chance of success. And you can’t prove otherwise.
the events of 1-6-2021 are proof that too many people have lost trust in the integrity of our elections
that should have been sufficient proof, even for a useful idiot
Then MAYBE you should address the source of that distrust. And stand up to the lies. That might be helpful.
But… there is a very good example of someone trying to cheat in an election. Who was that, you ask?
Well, somebody called the Secretary of State of Georgia in 2020 and asked him to “find 11,780 votes”… so he could win. That was Donald J. Trump. The same guy who claims the elections are rigged! Go figure.
Clinton conceded once Trump broke 270 in Wisconsin, what are you talking about? Trump STILL clains the election was stolen. Why do you mislead about such easily researched information? You have no integrity.
Sen. Thune writes that Democrats should “explain to the American people why common sense and the Democrat Party have parted ways.”
Really? And why don’t you explain how you can possibly believe this election nonsense? I am pretty sure you don’t. Because the idea that the 2020 election was stolen… is radically stupid.
Because in 2016 the Democrats claimed the election was stolen. They said the same thing when Bush beat Gore.
Some of us are old enough to remember the presidential election of 1960, which results didn’t pass the smell test. Nixon had class and conceded. Those days are over.
If the losers are going to rally their base every four years with complaints, violence will be the result.
You are conflating two completely different things. Those complaining about elections (which always occur) and Trump’s mountain of lies, which clearly caused the attack on the Capitol, and continues to erode confidence in elections.
Those other candidates conceded, for the good of the country. But, you know who didn’t?
Gore’s 2000 attempt to recount only cherry-picked Florida precincts which would likely yield more votes for him, was begging to be halted in courts. This was the last gasp of Clinton-style corruption, until the man who mastered all of Slick’s dirty tricks won in 2016.
Clinton invented and practiced the Politics of Personal Destruction, via James Carville and his minions. It still goes on, via Stephen Miller.
Clinton’s favorite trick was false equivocation, where he’d point at $100 of GOP hanky panky, to hide or divert from a $10000 Dem scandal. It still goes on.
Touting Hilary’s late night concession in 2016 as an equivalence or justification for Trump’s never-ending attempt to make permanent a false narrative of his 2020 loss as “stolen”, strains all bounds of credulity to the breaking point.
Hilary did concede in 2016, while Trump never conceded in 2020, right up and through Jan 6 2021’s attack by Trump rally attendees on the US Capitol, complete with a gallows for Mike Pence, over whom Trump loudly goaded his people into a rage.
The late Pat Robertson of 700 Club fame, URGED Trump to give up the legal tricks and CONCEDE in December 2020. After Pat’s death a few months later, his son Gordon turned that network into a Trump megaphone, while even Fox was still trying to figure out how far they were going to go into the lie business.
I gotta say no to false equivocation in this case Ms Beal. Jan 6 2021 was a wake-up call to the bipartisan corruption of Washington, and I only saw Democrats waking up to the protection of our democracy in the face of Trump and MAGA.
When a MAGA loudmouth declares that Democrats have no common sense, that charge itself is nonsense.
Bottom line: a vote for the SAVE Act will ensure the peaceful transfer of power. A vote against it is a vote for violence.
This is not about any one election, it is about restoring the public’s trust in the integrity of our election system,
Anne writes: “a vote for the SAVE Act will ensure the peaceful transfer of power. A vote against it is a vote for violence.”
Interesting. Your guy lies about elections. Bold, audacious lies. His supporters choose to believe those lies. As a result, WE must support your remedy, or there will be violence.
You people so need to be defeated.
So, everyone must buy into Trump’s lies about the election, or there will be violence? Are you even thinking about what you are writing? I swear that age is breaking your brain, Anne.
Ms Beal we REALLY need to restore trust in the executive branch by getting Trump out of there.
When nobody’s monkeying with it from the Oval Office, our election system is among the most efficient and dependable systems ON EARTH. Proven statistically in every credible way possible based on the data from recent elections.
Your assertion that the SAVE act fixes a broken system, is bunkum and balderdash. SAVE applies a peculiar kind of crippling to a good system, in all of its amended forms so far.